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Dr. Mabuse
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Sweden
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Posted - 12/18/2017 :  13:34:05   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Dr. Mabuse an ICQ Message Send Dr. Mabuse a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Kil

Philo:
As should be clear from these quotes, Loxton views skepticism as an discipline or occupation (like dentistry, as he himself gave as an example), and identifies on a personal level with humanism. Do you share Loxton's views on this?

I do. Yes. Skepticism is a tool. A method. Atheism and humanism are beliefs. Skepticism sometimes informs beliefs but it does so as a tool.
I think that's a simplification though.
Atheism isn't a belief as such, but rather a philosophical standpoint on religion? A lack of belief.

Skepticism is a tool, out of the science tool-box.

Humanism is the philosophical and ethical stance of egalitarianism(?) of humans?


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Kil
Evil Skeptic

USA
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Posted - 12/18/2017 :  19:31:11   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Kil's Homepage  Send Kil an AOL message  Send Kil a Yahoo! Message Send Kil a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Mab:
Atheism isn't a belief as such, but rather a philosophical standpoint on religion? A lack of belief.[

I see atheism as a metaphysical conclusion to the proposition, is there is a god? It gets to that conclusion by way of empirical evidence (or the lack of it, in this case.) It's a belief that there is no god. In other words, atheism resides at one end of the belief scale, and belief in god, where empirical evidence is not a requirement, is at the other end of the same scale.

No biggie but perhaps it's because I see atheism as one possible answer to a metaphysical question that I see it as a belief. Definitely not a belief in god, but a belief about god. I don't think a belief about god must presuppose that a god exists.

Uncertainty may make you uncomfortable. Certainty makes you ridiculous.

Why not question something for a change?

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bluewaves
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Posted - 12/19/2017 :  05:25:11   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send bluewaves a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'd like to believe that I am.

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