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Chagur
New Member
USA
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 Posted - 10/04/2002 : 14:59:04
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On this day, October 4th, 1957, forty five years ago:
The U.S.S.R. launched Sputnik which in many ways had
more of an effect on the world than the atomic bomb.
Just a reminder of what a supposedly backward,
agrarian society accomplished.
Take care
"Insignificant events can take on monumental proportions
when your head is full of practically nothing" - Grace Slick -
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Slater
SFN Regular
USA
1668 Posts |
 Posted - 10/04/2002 : 16:01:30 [Permalink]
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I didn't think the Nazi's were a backward agrarian society. It was their crew--living in the USSR-- that launched Sputnik
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Chagur
New Member
USA
21 Posts |
Posted - 10/04/2002 : 16:20:37 [Permalink]
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Slater, I do think you are a little confused.
It was the US that needed von Braun and his
crew to get a rocket into space after ignoring
Goddard who was something of a hero in the
USSR. Ever hear of Sergei Korolev?
"Insignificant events can take on monumental proportions
when your head is full of practically nothing" - Grace Slick -
Edited by - Chagur on 10/04/2002 16:22:13 |
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Slater
SFN Regular
USA
1668 Posts |
Posted - 10/04/2002 : 17:07:24 [Permalink]
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Sure I have. I also know that we got only a handful of the V-1 and V-2 people, all the best went over to the Russians.
The OSS had started shooting ranking Nazis on sight (which was why they were disbanded, and why the CIA started) at the end of the war. Von Braun didn't believe the story, but all the senior people did. The Russians welcomed them with open arms.
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I learned something ... I learned that Jehovah's Witnesses do not celebrate Halloween. I guess they don't like strangers going up to their door and annoying them.
-Bruce Clark
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Chagur
New Member
USA
21 Posts |
Posted - 10/04/2002 : 18:00:20 [Permalink]
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The OSS (Office of Strategic Services) was created in '41 and abolished in '45 and it's duties transferred to the State and War Departments. It was not until '46 that the CIG (Central Intelligence Group) was created and the CIA in '47. It wasn't until '49 that CIA Act was passed and it became an independent, and secret, agency!
Your knowledge about the intelligence services is as abysmal as your knowledge of Soviet rocketry.
"We must respect the rights of the dissenters, even though they
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Slater
SFN Regular
USA
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Posted - 10/04/2002 : 18:33:51 [Permalink]
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Your knowledge about the intelligence services is as abysmal as your knowledge of Soviet rocketry.
I don't recall giving any dates. I was in the ONI myself, what agency were you attached to?
What fairy land do you come from where the Russians didn't get most of the Nazi's rocket, jet and long range aircraft people?
Where do you think the sudden burst of technology in the Soviet Union came from? Why do you think they were first in space? Korolev was good but he wasn't good enough to do it by himself.
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Chagur
New Member
USA
21 Posts |
Posted - 10/04/2002 : 21:04:48 [Permalink]
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After my Navy bit, the company had a little problem ... So it was off to
the farm and then some traveling.
"most of the" Yeah, sure. Like they weren't scared sh*tless of the Ruskies
and practically fell over each other trying to give themselves up to the other
side.
"long range aircraft" Hmmm ... Why does the name Topelev come to mind?
Oh, that's right ... He was a Nazi too! Just like Theremin (electronics) and
Korolev (rockets) ... Both of them over at the Aviation Institute (Moscow).
"first in space" Like, maybe because we only had the Nazi's?
"by himself" He had some top engineers, Soviet, working with him. Gorodnichev
and Chertok (or was it Semenov) ring bells?.
Isn't it strange too that we're using the RD-180, an upgraded 170, for the Atlas
V? And Vostok is still the lifeline for the ISS? Come off of it! Oh, and that's right,
it was those damned Nazi's who developed the Shkval that Pope ... Never mind.
"We must respect the rights of the dissenters, even though they
.might be idiots or harmful." - Wau Holland - (Died 07/29/01)
Edited by - Chagur on 10/05/2002 15:24:50 |
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