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the_ignored
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Posted - 02/14/2003 :  03:34:04  Show Profile Send the_ignored a Private Message

>From: enuffenuff@fastmail.fm
(excerpt follows):
> I'm looking to teach these two bastards a lesson they'll never forget.
> Personal visit by mates of mine. No violence, just a wee little chat.
>
> **** has also committed more crimes than you can count with his
> incitement of hatred against a religion. That law came in about 2007
> much to ****'s ignorance. That is fact and his writing will become well
> know as well as him becoming a publicly known icon of hatred.
>
> Good luck with that fuckwit. And Reynold, fucking run, and don't stop.
> Disappear would be best as it was you who dared to attack me on my
> illness knowing nothing of the cause. You disgust me and you are top of
> the list boy. Again, no violence. Just regular reminders of who's there
> and visits to see you are behaving. Nothing scary in reality. But I'd
> still disappear if I was you.

What brought that on? this. Original posting here.

Another example of this guy's lunacy here.

gezzam
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Australia
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Posted - 02/14/2003 :  08:56:00   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit gezzam's Homepage Send gezzam a Private Message

Mistakes are a part of being human. Appreciate your mistakes for what they are: precious life lessons that can only be learned the hard way. Unless it's a fatal mistake, which, at least, others can learn from.

Al Franken
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@tomic
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USA
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Posted - 02/14/2003 :  10:45:49   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit @tomic's Homepage Send @tomic a Private Message
I do hate seeing our political leaders yank our chains the way they have been selling this war. Rice herself wrote that Iraq's weapons pose no threat to the USA and recently Powell testified that there was no love between Al-Qaeda and Iraq until he needed to make a case for war. We also have the FBI and CIA saying there's no link. Yet many Americans swallow these lies completely and are willing to go send kids to die based on these lies. It's pretty sick.

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Tim
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USA
775 Posts

Posted - 02/15/2003 :  02:48:21   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Tim a Private Message
quote:
I do hate seeing our political leaders yank our chains
Yeah, really! My favorite lately was the most recent Bin Laden threat where he called Saddam a Socialist or some such, and Bush and Powell said this is proof that they're in cahoots. Then, Hans and company come back to the UN saying they haven't seen the things the Bush II admin. claim, (the mobile factories and WMD cross country trips), and this becomes more proof of how sly that ole Saddam character is. I guess, in the world of international intrigue, a lack of evidence becomes the strongest evidence. I never would've guessed.

"We got an issue in America. Too many good docs are gettin' out of business. Too many OB/GYNs aren't able to practice their -- their love with women all across this country." Dubya in Poplar Bluff, Missouri, 9/6/2004
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Orpheus
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Posted - 02/21/2003 :  04:26:41   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Orpheus a Private Message
I recall seeing a news report which stated that Bush, Chaney and his National Security Advisor all owned large shares in the same oil company, and that this company would be nominated to oversee Iraq's oilfields in the aftermath of a war. Can anybody confirm or deny this tantilizing report?

Find your own damned answers!
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Tim
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USA
775 Posts

Posted - 02/21/2003 :  05:48:18   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Tim a Private Message
quote:
I recall seeing a news report which stated that Bush, Chaney and his National Security Advisor all owned large shares in the same oil company, and that this company would be nominated to oversee Iraq's oilfields in the aftermath of a war. Can anybody confirm or deny this tantilizing report?
A web search will turn up hundreds of articles suspicious of Papa Bush, Baby Bush, Mr. 'Halliburton' Cheney, and their various cronies and past associations. Though their sources may be questionable, some of these stories are very inflammatory, but never made to the American press. However, I am skeptical of the notion that someone may make a strong legal case implicating these Texas energy moguls in real conspiracies concerning US Middle Eastern policy.

I work in the oil industry, and lately the lines seperating big oil interests have become quite blurred. In the past few years the number of big oil companies has been cut in half due to mergers and acquisitions. Most of the new projects that I work on in the Gulf of Mexico are far too large and expensive for even the new super oil companies to take on the risk by themselves. BP/Amoco, Exxon/Mobil, and Texaco/Chevron/Shell are no longer in direct competition as producers, but working in partnership.

I have no doubt that several well placed politicians own large blocks of energy company, oil company and oilfield service company stocks. I, also, have no doubts that several have given up their seats on certain energy related corporate boards only in name, so as to avoid any appearance of ethics violations.

The trouble is that, today, the lines of seperation between corporate competition, energy related companies and political access have turned into lines more resembling lines of consociation. There is so much interplay between all energy associated corporations, gov't oversight bureaucracies, and individual stock holders and politicians that, in my opinion, we would never be able to shake out any coherent cases of wrong doing.

"We got an issue in America. Too many good docs are gettin' out of business. Too many OB/GYNs aren't able to practice their -- their love with women all across this country." Dubya in Poplar Bluff, Missouri, 9/6/2004
Edited by - Tim on 02/21/2003 05:55:21
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walt fristoe
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USA
505 Posts

Posted - 02/21/2003 :  11:26:09   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send walt fristoe a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Orpheus

I recall seeing a news report which stated that Bush, Chaney and his National Security Advisor all owned large shares in the same oil company, and that this company would be nominated to oversee Iraq's oilfields in the aftermath of a war. Can anybody confirm or deny this tantilizing report?



I think we may well be on the road towards a plutocracy, if we're not there already.

"If God chose George Bus of all the people in the world, how good could God be?"
Bill Maher
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Kaneda Kuonji
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USA
138 Posts

Posted - 02/22/2003 :  12:31:12   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Kaneda Kuonji a Private Message
That is it...I am probably going to leave the US and go to Canada for a decent job...they are going too far, man. I want off this roller-coaster before it crashes.

Rodney Dean, CI Order of the Knights of Jubal
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the_ignored
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Posted - 02/22/2003 :  15:42:07   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send the_ignored a Private Message
You realize they'll tax your ass off here?

>From: enuffenuff@fastmail.fm
(excerpt follows):
> I'm looking to teach these two bastards a lesson they'll never forget.
> Personal visit by mates of mine. No violence, just a wee little chat.
>
> **** has also committed more crimes than you can count with his
> incitement of hatred against a religion. That law came in about 2007
> much to ****'s ignorance. That is fact and his writing will become well
> know as well as him becoming a publicly known icon of hatred.
>
> Good luck with that fuckwit. And Reynold, fucking run, and don't stop.
> Disappear would be best as it was you who dared to attack me on my
> illness knowing nothing of the cause. You disgust me and you are top of
> the list boy. Again, no violence. Just regular reminders of who's there
> and visits to see you are behaving. Nothing scary in reality. But I'd
> still disappear if I was you.

What brought that on? this. Original posting here.

Another example of this guy's lunacy here.
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walt fristoe
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USA
505 Posts

Posted - 02/24/2003 :  19:14:48   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send walt fristoe a Private Message
Here's an interesting article, called the Bioterror Bible.

"If God chose George Bus of all the people in the world, how good could God be?"
Bill Maher
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@tomic
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USA
4607 Posts

Posted - 02/24/2003 :  22:05:39   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit @tomic's Homepage Send @tomic a Private Message
You realize they'll tax your ass off here?

Do you realize how messed up the USA is? The national debt is going up again. Uncle Sam is holding an empty bag and there will come a time in the next few decades as Americans become older and older when Social Security may collapse. We already have a great health care system 1/3 of us can't have acces to. Our roads and bridges are crumbling. Our educational system is such a joke we now have to import our best and brightest. I could go on and on. I would gladly pay more taxes in exchange for a future worth living in...

@tomic

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Fireballn
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Canada
179 Posts

Posted - 02/25/2003 :  16:34:01   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Fireballn a Private Message
Cry me a frickin river. The states have one bad year and people are jumping off the boat. Im glad not all Americans are like you people.

Our dollar did go up to 67 cents US today though, I do like to see that. Most Americans are hard working, intelligent people, who will not let their country go into the crapper. It is just a matter of time.

If i were the supreme being, I wouldn't have messed around with butterflies and daffodils. I would have started with lasers 8 o'clock day one!
-Time Bandits-
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Jelly Fish
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Posted - 02/27/2003 :  12:35:08   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Jelly Fish an AOL message Send Jelly Fish a Private Message
I'l tell you, the cartoon at the beginning of that topic was far out man!!!

You want to chill out Fireballn.....these guys maybe just see what a mess the world is becomming. It aint just about YOU fireballn. The US is a rich country. Dont be so selfish. Think about the rest of the World for a moment. It does exist outside the great and wonderful land you know.

Jelly Fish
swimming in that frickin river you just cried.

Glendower..“I can call spirits from the vasty deep.”
Hotspur..“Why, so can I, or so can any man; But will they come when you do call for them?”
Jelly.."Not a hope in hell"
adapted from Henry 1V part 1 by Mr W. Shakespeare
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