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Rowan
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 Posted - 07/24/2004 : 13:43:04
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My aunt and uncle have my ten year old cousin believing that she gets gifts from her grandfathers every x-mas and on her birthday. The problem is that one has been dead for four years and the other has been dead for six years. What would drive normally sensible, if a bit flaky, people do lie to their daughter and son,who's 3? My second question is how is that going to effect them when their older and living in the real world? Not a semi-real cocoon.
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Ricky
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tomk80
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Netherlands
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 Posted - 07/24/2004 : 20:03:05 [Permalink]
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Why do they do that? Santa Claus okay (and if you do it like we do it in the Netherlands, it's actually a lot of fun), but why drag your dead grand parents in it?
First I wanted to make the comparison with Santa, but with grand parents it comes a little too close to home for my liking. Have you asked you aunt and uncle why they do it? |
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Trish
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USA
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Posted - 07/30/2004 : 10:18:35 [Permalink]
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| Yeah, I thought it was a bit twisted the first time I saw them do it. It's not something that came from this side of the family. Grandma was a bit taken aback by it too. |
...no one has ever found a 4.5 billion year old stone artifact (at the right geological stratum) with the words "Made by God."
No Sense of Obligation by Matt Young
"Say what you will about the sweet miracle of unquestioning faith. I consider the capacity for it terrifying and vile!"
Mother Night by Kurt Vonnegut, Jr.
They (Women Marines) don't have a nickname, and they don't need one. They get their basic training in a Marine atmosphere, at a Marine Post. They inherit the traditions of the Marines. They are Marines.
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BigPapaSmurf
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Posted - 08/09/2004 : 11:57:41 [Permalink]
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Hey I was lied to at every stage of my development, it is the way of things nowadays.
Santa-nope,
Tooth fairy-nope
Easter Bunny-nope,
Oh and I never knew I was celebrating the birth and death of Jesus, I only get that info when Im hooked on presents and cadburys, now I face ridicule for not celebrating them, 'what you dont like presents?' 'its not about jesus anymore'...Oh really?, Christ Mass Holy Day =Christmas Holiday
America was all freedom and hotdogs when I was growing up in public school, I had to dig hard but I found out the truth.
Americans trained, funded and supported most of our enemies of the last 50 years, Ho Chi Minh, Osama, Saddam, etc... and helped destroy democratically elected goverments such as Chiles, propping up a brutally repressive dictator like Pinochet, this is the 911 they remember...1972.
In our books we learned how the great north stopped the evil slave masters of the south and freed everyone into harmony. Of course they leave out the fact that the founding fathers were slave drivers themselves and after the war nothing much improved for the blacks.
We hear all about the horrors committed by the Nazis, Japanese and the Soviets, but they conveniently leave out the firebombings of every major city in Germany and Japan, causing the deaths of millions of innocents.
Dont get me started on our 'representitive' government or the lies that advertising heaps on the kids.
The lies we tell our children are piled so high we cannot see the top, do you relly need to ask why some go off the deep end or why they dont trust adults? |
"...things I have neither seen nor experienced nor heard tell of from anybody else; things, what is more, that do not in fact exist and could not ever exist at all. So my readers must not believe a word I say." -Lucian on his book True History
"...They accept such things on faith alone, without any evidence. So if a fraudulent and cunning person who knows how to take advantage of a situation comes among them, he can make himself rich in a short time." -Lucian critical of early Christians c.166 AD From his book, De Morte Peregrini |
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furshur
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Posted - 08/09/2004 : 14:02:57 [Permalink]
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My aunt and uncle have my ten year old cousin believing that she gets gifts from her grandfathers every x-mas and on her birthday. The problem is that one has been dead for four years and the other has been dead for six years.
We do the same type of thing at out house.
Every Christmas eve I tell my kids how grandma and grandpa wake up to find themselves trapped in buried coffins. They claw there way out of the coffins and sort of slither up through the ground until they break free. They then shuffle there way to our house and drop off presents - unless the kid have been bad in which case they will come up stairs for a little visit.
This much more effective at behaviour modification than the threat of coal in their stockings.
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Ricky
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beskeptigal
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 08/14/2004 : 02:46:15 [Permalink]
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I've never heard of such a custom. Is it common anywhere? It seems odd to me the kids wouldn't know about the deaths. So if they only know these relatives by the presents they get, what sort of values would that be teaching?
One of my first revelations when I went into nursing was when I watched people die and babies born. They are such important parts of life and both experiences are hidden away from most of us. |
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furshur
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Posted - 08/17/2004 : 05:53:56 [Permalink]
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Ricky,
Sorry it took so long to get back to you... yes it was a joke. I'm a little odd, but I'm not cruel. Something about the first post reminded me of a Gary Larson type scenario - so I just went with it. By the way, my family has never received any gifts from the dead.
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