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Ricky
SFN Die Hard

USA
4907 Posts

Posted - 08/09/2004 :  08:23:04   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Ricky an AOL message Send Ricky a Private Message
Ahhh, gotta love science. Making a prediction based upon previous evidence that Coberst would not respond appropriately, then testing it successfully leads us back to our original statement.

Why continue? Because we must. Because we have the call. Because it is nobler to fight for rationality without winning than to give up in the face of continued defeats. Because whatever true progress humanity makes is through the rationality of the occasional individual and because any one individual we may win for the cause may do more for humanity than a hundred thousand who hug their superstitions to their breast.
- Isaac Asimov
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Cuneiformist
The Imperfectionist

USA
4955 Posts

Posted - 08/09/2004 :  08:48:59   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Cuneiformist a Private Message
(I had originally posted this before but I must of somehow screwed it up, so here's a second go...)

quote:
Originally posted by coberst
When I speak of questions and answers I am speaking of those in which the subject becomes a ‘problem finder'.


Just so I understand: you lament the fact that there aren't more "problem finders" here at Skeptic Friends?

Couldn't we all lament the fact that there aren't enough X (where X is whatever our pet thing is) here?

And I'm still not sure how too many teen-oriented TV shows has anything to do with this...
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furshur
SFN Regular

USA
1536 Posts

Posted - 08/09/2004 :  09:34:42   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send furshur a Private Message
quote:
Coberst said:
When I linked TV and Internet forums I did so to display my impression that most TV programs are directed at teenagers it seems.

I disagree with this statement. I think the best way to determine the target audience is by the comercials. Based on this you appear to be wrong.

Dave: Nice prediction. But lets be reasonable, your probability of success in that particular prediction was probably higher than the weather forecasters ability to predict tomorrows weather.
I'm afraid you won't be collecting Randi's million on that.

If I knew then what I know now then I would know more now than I know.
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Dave W.
Info Junkie

USA
26031 Posts

Posted - 08/09/2004 :  09:47:31   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message
Furshur, it is as Ricky said. I did not make a prediction in the psychic mumbo-jumbo sense, but in the scientific sense. It was yet another test of the sociological hypothesis that coberst isn't actually interested in critical thinking or self-learning, but instead is solely focused on pontificating in favor of behaviours which he refuses to follow.

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N C More
Skeptic Friend

53 Posts

Posted - 08/09/2004 :  13:40:17   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send N C More a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Dave W.

the sociological hypothesis that coberst isn't actually interested in critical thinking or self-learning, but instead is solely focused on pontificating in favor of behaviours which he refuses to follow.



Does that translate to, "Do as I say, not as I do"? This is renowned as a very poor teaching technique.

"An open mind is like an open window...without a good screen you'll get some really weird bugs!"
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Cuneiformist
The Imperfectionist

USA
4955 Posts

Posted - 08/09/2004 :  14:02:25   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Cuneiformist a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Dave W.

Furshur, it is as Ricky said. I did not make a prediction in the psychic mumbo-jumbo sense, but in the scientific sense. It was yet another test of the sociological hypothesis that coberst isn't actually interested in critical thinking or self-learning, but instead is solely focused on pontificating in favor of behaviours which he refuses to follow.



This is made even more clear when one sees that coberst has been posting the exact same messages as dozens of different sites. Google "coberst" and you'll see among the 700 or so hits repeats of the same crap he's been posting here. Follow the links and notice how he engages very little with the participants-- sometimes posting obviously cut-and-pasted answers from other forums to another!
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Dave W.
Info Junkie

USA
26031 Posts

Posted - 08/09/2004 :  19:47:17   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message
You're right, Cuneiformist. I've made a "map" of coberstian writings. And the map tells me things are actually quite a bit worse than N C More thinks they are.

(I'm such a tease, I know.)

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N C More
Skeptic Friend

53 Posts

Posted - 08/10/2004 :  05:45:12   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send N C More a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Dave W.

I've made a "map" of coberstian writings.



Ooh, Ooh, a map! Can we see it! Can we see it!...Or is this one of those "mental maps" (I frequently make that type)?

"An open mind is like an open window...without a good screen you'll get some really weird bugs!"
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Dave W.
Info Junkie

USA
26031 Posts

Posted - 08/10/2004 :  06:28:58   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message
I'm in the process of tidying it up and adding the forum code to it for posting.

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SciFi Chick
Skeptic Friend

USA
99 Posts

Posted - 08/10/2004 :  08:02:05   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send SciFi Chick a Private Message
Oh goody! I can't wait.

"There is no 'I' in TEAM, but there is an 'M' and an 'E'." -Carson

"Rather fail with honor than succeed by fraud."
-Sophocles
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Dave W.
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USA
26031 Posts

Posted - 08/10/2004 :  14:46:06   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message
The map is right over here.

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