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Ricky
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Posted - 09/11/2004 :  16:36:14   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Ricky an AOL message Send Ricky a Private Message
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Really? I didn't know that. So that's what the officer from the Swedish security police (SÄPO) was rambling about on TV-news a while back, when he talked about the secutiy-risk high-tech companies experience when they let their employees have programs like SETI@Home and similar programs installed.


Yes, as part of a computer security intro on campus, the presenter showed us this buried fact, unknown to practically everyone.

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I always figured web-pages could have applets running distributed computing-tasks, but I never learned enough to work out how it could be done.


Connecting computers through an applet is very possible, but I think it would be easier to implement this through p2p like KaZaA. I have never heard of an applet that connects over 30 or so people at once, but you have KaZaA which has over 7 million users (I think). Also, p2p eliminates the need for a server.
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- Isaac Asimov
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Dave W.
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Posted - 09/11/2004 :  17:48:52   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message
Applets can do nearly everything a normal application can, Ricky, and with the proper security permissions, can do everything a normal app can. You can have applets run as servers, if you wanted to. Peer-to-peer networking can be implemented in applets. At least, I can't think of a good reason why it can't, unless there's something preventing it built into Java's "sandbox" security of which I am unaware, that you can't turn off, ever.
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Ricky
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Posted - 09/11/2004 :  22:18:10   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Ricky an AOL message Send Ricky a Private Message
Yes, I understand that Dave. All I was saying was that the software needed to do the things we are talking about is already made. It would be much more expensive for programmers to have to develope a whole new system using applets that would handle those kind of numbers than an application that is already made.

I'm not quite sure on the limitations of applets, I know you can't directly read and write files off the user's computer. However, you can from a server and there is probably some kind of hack for doing so with the user.

Edit: Made a mistake, "I know you can't directly read and write files off the user's computer" is without security permissions. I have no idea what you can/can't do with the security permissions.
Why continue? Because we must. Because we have the call. Because it is nobler to fight for rationality without winning than to give up in the face of continued defeats. Because whatever true progress humanity makes is through the rationality of the occasional individual and because any one individual we may win for the cause may do more for humanity than a hundred thousand who hug their superstitions to their breast.
- Isaac Asimov
Edited by - Ricky on 09/11/2004 22:21:08
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H. Humbert
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Posted - 09/11/2004 :  23:09:46   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send H. Humbert a Private Message
A.I. is incredibly simple to achieve. All you have to do is spill champagne into the motherboard of a PC during a lightning storm while your neighbor plays the cello.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0087197
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"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself - and you are the easiest person to fool." --Richard P. Feynman

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Edited by - H. Humbert on 09/11/2004 23:11:52
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