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Starman
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Sweden
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Posted - 10/01/2004 :  02:09:05  Show Profile Send Starman a Private Message
2004 Ig Nobel Prize Winner in Medicine might have the reason.

The Effect of Country Music on Suicide - published in Social Forces, vol. 71, no. 1, September 1992, pp. 211-8.

Complete list of winners

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H. Humbert
SFN Die Hard

USA
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Posted - 10/01/2004 :  02:34:25   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send H. Humbert a Private Message
It's the "Heavy Metal causes teens to off themselves" hypothesis all over again.

The question will always remain, "Does a certain kind of music cause people to become suicide-prone and depressed? Or do suicide-prone and depressed people seek out a certain kind of music?"

I think it's the latter, and I don't understand why people keep writing unoriginal papers on this topic.

I do remember one comedian's take on the effects of music and suicide. He said, "When I was a kid, I was really into the Beatles. But if John and Ringo ever came up to me in person and said, 'Kid, we really think you should kill yourself," I think I would find that Rolling Stones album starting to sound a hell of a lot better."


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Edited by - H. Humbert on 10/01/2004 02:35:19
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Starman
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Sweden
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Posted - 10/01/2004 :  03:20:51   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Starman a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by H. Humbert

The question will always remain, "Does a certain kind of music cause people to become suicide-prone and depressed? Or do suicide-prone and depressed people seek out a certain kind of music?"

I think it's the latter, and I don't understand why people keep writing unoriginal papers on this topic.

"Did I listen to pop music because I was miserable? Or was I miserable because I listened to pop music?"
-- Rob Gordon, High Fidelity

I don't think you should take any IG Nobel winner seriously...

"Any religion that makes a form of torture into an icon that they worship seems to me a pretty sick sort of religion quite honestly"
-- Terry Jones
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Dave W.
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Posted - 10/01/2004 :  07:45:41   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message
Know what you get when you play a country song backwards? You get your wife back, you get your truck back, you get your dog back...

There used to be TV ads in this area for the local country radio station, with people talking about how country music is about "real life." Well, sheesh. I want my music to be fun. I've got plenty of real life without seeking out music to grind real life into me even further.

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Siberia
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Brazil
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Posted - 10/01/2004 :  08:28:06   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Siberia's Homepage  Send Siberia an AOL message  Send Siberia a Yahoo! Message Send Siberia a Private Message
I was going to post the same thing right now.
Then again, if I was forced to listen to country music all the time, I might as well kill myself to make it stop...

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Edited by - Siberia on 10/01/2004 08:31:26
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beskeptigal
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Posted - 10/14/2004 :  23:59:20   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send beskeptigal a Private Message
Hey, don't be mocking my Shania Twain CD, now.
Edited by - beskeptigal on 10/14/2004 23:59:59
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Valiant Dancer
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Posted - 10/15/2004 :  07:09:51   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Valiant Dancer's Homepage Send Valiant Dancer a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Dave W.

Know what you get when you play a country song backwards? You get your wife back, you get your truck back, you get your dog back...





I thought it was you get your wife back, your job back, your truck gets fixed, you get sober, and your dog comes back to life.

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Dave W.
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Posted - 10/15/2004 :  11:56:12   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message
The way I heard it (and told it), Val, the word 'backwards' gets played into the answer with the repeated use of 'back'.

Is this what we've come to today? Deconstructing jokes?

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Dude
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Posted - 10/15/2004 :  18:09:28   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Dude a Private Message
Of course, there IS solid evidence that music can cause massive personality shifts....

For evidence I only need refer you to the origin of Bill the Cat.

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The handmaiden of desperation; the opiate of despair; the illegible signpost on the road to perdition. ~~ da filth
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filthy
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Posted - 10/15/2004 :  18:44:46   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Valiant Dancer

quote:
Originally posted by Dave W.

Know what you get when you play a country song backwards? You get your wife back, you get your truck back, you get your dog back...





I thought it was you get your wife back, your job back, your truck gets fixed, you get sober, and your dog comes back to life.

And your mother gets out of prison.....

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Valiant Dancer
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Posted - 10/18/2004 :  07:02:26   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Valiant Dancer's Homepage Send Valiant Dancer a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by filthy

quote:
Originally posted by Valiant Dancer

quote:
Originally posted by Dave W.

Know what you get when you play a country song backwards? You get your wife back, you get your truck back, you get your dog back...





I thought it was you get your wife back, your job back, your truck gets fixed, you get sober, and your dog comes back to life.

And your mother gets out of prison.....



I thought it was your mother goes back into prison.


Yes, I remember "You Don't Even Call Me By My Name", why do you ask?

Cthulhu/Asmodeus when you're tired of voting for the lesser of two evils

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furshur
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USA
1536 Posts

Posted - 10/19/2004 :  05:51:05   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send furshur a Private Message
A line from "the perfect country and western song".
quote:
Well, I was drunk the day my Mom got out of prison,

by David Allen Coe

http://www.brainyencyclopedia.com/encyclopedia/d/da/david_allan_coe.html



If I knew then what I know now then I would know more now than I know.
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