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BigPapaSmurf
SFN Die Hard
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 Posted - 10/11/2004 : 11:30:41
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http://www.komotv.com/stories/33444.htm
Im sure she told someone about her vision, BEFORE it came true...right?
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"...things I have neither seen nor experienced nor heard tell of from anybody else; things, what is more, that do not in fact exist and could not ever exist at all. So my readers must not believe a word I say." -Lucian on his book True History
"...They accept such things on faith alone, without any evidence. So if a fraudulent and cunning person who knows how to take advantage of a situation comes among them, he can make himself rich in a short time." -Lucian critical of early Christians c.166 AD From his book, De Morte Peregrini |
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Dude
SFN Die Hard
USA
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Posted - 10/11/2004 : 11:35:41 [Permalink]
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"blood clot on her brain" and "will make a complete recovery"
don't go together. |
Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson
"god :: the last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument." - G. Carlin
Hope, n.
The handmaiden of desperation; the opiate of despair; the illegible signpost on the road to perdition. ~~ da filth |
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moakley
SFN Regular
USA
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Posted - 10/11/2004 : 19:20:49 [Permalink]
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... several vivid dreams of a wooded area ...
Wooded areas near Redmond WA. What are the chances ??
Location of party was probably a better clue of where Laura was. |
Life is good
Philosophy is questions that may never be answered. Religion is answers that may never be questioned. -Anonymous |
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the_ignored
SFN Addict
2562 Posts |
Posted - 10/12/2004 : 21:29:58 [Permalink]
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Is this the same story that the RR people are talking about?
Of course they've used that story as an example of how "prayer works"! Note how they can "excuse" things when prayers aren't answered! They say that this girl being found is an "answer to prayer" then when someone said:
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Originally Posted by Steve0155
If she had died would that mean that prayer didn't work?
Of course not. All things work for good in Him (or something like that, I'm sorry, I don't know that scripture from memory). So, it may just mean that you (or they) asked, and He said no (for His own reasons).
If it's just that they prayed and she was found I would say maybe it was the prayer. But, look, the woman actually went out and found her in a miraculous way. Why de we turn our heads away from miracles? We know they happened in the past. They happen now. But we have to pay attention.
susie
Then, later, when someone asked:
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If she had died would that mean that prayer didn't work?
No, it would mean that the answer was a loving, "No". Just like any parent, sometimes our Father in Heaven has to say no to us.
Great, isn't it? No matter what the result is, it's their "god" talking to them! That makes prayers a useless way to test for "god's" existance, since there is, for them, no negative result possible!
Damned good thing science doesn't work that way, else no theory, no matter if it's been disproven or not, would still be considered "valid" by their brain-dead "reasoning"! |
>From: enuffenuff@fastmail.fm
(excerpt follows):
> I'm looking to teach these two bastards a lesson they'll never forget.
> Personal visit by mates of mine. No violence, just a wee little chat.
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> **** has also committed more crimes than you can count with his
> incitement of hatred against a religion. That law came in about 2007
> much to ****'s ignorance. That is fact and his writing will become well
> know as well as him becoming a publicly known icon of hatred.
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> Good luck with that fuckwit. And Reynold, fucking run, and don't stop.
> Disappear would be best as it was you who dared to attack me on my
> illness knowing nothing of the cause. You disgust me and you are top of
> the list boy. Again, no violence. Just regular reminders of who's there
> and visits to see you are behaving. Nothing scary in reality. But I'd
> still disappear if I was you.
What brought that on? this. Original posting here.
Another example of this guy's lunacy here. |
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Dave W.
Info Junkie
USA
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Posted - 10/13/2004 : 08:32:35 [Permalink]
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| Even worse, Ig: as I said in another thread last night, if God can modify reality, it invalidates one of the basic assuptions of science - that there is a reality to examine. Any test result, of any phenomenon, would be called into question as possibly being the effect of Divine influence. |
- Dave W. (Private Msg, EMail)
Evidently, I rock!
Why not question something for a change?
Visit Dave's Psoriasis Info, too. |
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beskeptigal
SFN Die Hard
USA
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Posted - 10/15/2004 : 00:27:19 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by BigPapaSmurf
http://www.komotv.com/stories/33444.htm
Im sure she told someone about her vision, BEFORE it came true...right?
This was in my area. The police had looked for the car. There aren't very many cliffs she could have driven over. They knew where she had been the night before disappearing.
Here's what I gather happened. The girl went missing. The police may or may not have searched very well and may or may not have known where to look. But they were done with the search by that time I'm sure.
The family prayed, including the person who found her. Using common sense, which you wonder why no one else used it, the family friend probably drove the route the girl would have taken. There was probably some evidence a car had gone off the road and the searcher stopped to look.
I think the real story is why no one found her sooner. Certainly a car accident is a common scenario for persons who fail to return home.
As to the blood clot, that is no reason the person couldn't fully recover. It depends on many other factors. I haven't really heard how seriously the injury was.
Of course people never want to discuss if God rescued the girl, why did he send her over the cliff in the first place? |
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H. Humbert
SFN Die Hard
USA
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Posted - 10/15/2004 : 00:42:18 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by beskeptigal
I think the real story is why no one found her sooner. Certainly a car accident is a common scenario for persons who fail to return home.
Well, according to that article, one reason was: "The initial search was slowed because there had been underage drinking at the party, and the young people who attended would not say where it had been held," sheriff's Sgt. John Urquhart said.
The police also mentioned that they were treating this case as a runaway. Maybe that was premature, but who knows what her family said about the girl's behavior or whatever when interviewed.
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R.Wreck
SFN Regular
USA
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Posted - 10/15/2004 : 15:12:33 [Permalink]
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Of course people never want to discuss if God rescued the girl, why did he send her over the cliff in the first place?
Because of all the good publicity he got when she was found alive, of course! |
The foundation of morality is to . . . give up pretending to believe that for which there is no evidence, and repeating unintelligible propositions about things beyond the possibliities of knowledge.
T. H. Huxley
The Cattle Prod of Enlightened Compassion
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