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Plyss
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Posted - 01/22/2005 :  01:48:30  Show Profile Send Plyss a Private Message
..please keep him. We really don't want him here.



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We should have had this law [the Patriot Act] here long ago. Americans don't complain when they have to stand in line at check points, even remove their shoes, allow themselves to be searched. Here we would have 24 organisations complaining about violations of privacy.



The scary thing is, this one guy has so much success with his anti-muslim retoric that if elections were forced today he's end up with 20 seats in parliament (outof 150 in total).

tomk80
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Netherlands
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Posted - 01/22/2005 :  04:05:41   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit tomk80's Homepage Send tomk80 a Private Message
I thought it was the 'volkskrant' which had a nice opinion about this. In essence, he wants to do a lot of privacy invading even the republicans wouldn't dream of doing. I slowly get the feeling that if he gets his way, we'll shortly be installing 'big brother' tv screens in our apartments.

Tom

`Contrariwise,' continued Tweedledee, `if it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; but as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic.'
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filthy
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Posted - 01/22/2005 :  04:27:52   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message
Yeah, what the hell. We'll take him. At least he's prettier than our current crop of fascists. Pat & Jerry will fall in love....


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Plyss
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Netherlands
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Posted - 01/23/2005 :  03:18:15   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Plyss a Private Message
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Originally posted by filthy

Pat & Jerry will fall in love....



Probably not, he isn't to big on religion in general. I wouldn't be surprised if he were to advocate a number of anti-religious measures in the next elections. Aimed mainly at muslims instead of christians, but still enough to scare the christian parties anyway.

It's a bit tricky to work out his position on anything though as his parties homepage lists no political views or positions whatsoever. Apparently it's up to the reader to go through 30 or so intervies and distill the relevant information from them.

On a sidenote, yesterday mornings paper reported his party has now dropped to only 5 seats in parliament in the polls. It's little lift-ups like that that restore my faith in the population.
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filthy
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USA
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Posted - 01/23/2005 :  03:49:23   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Plyss

quote:
Originally posted by filthy

Pat & Jerry will fall in love....



Probably not, he isn't to big on religion in general. I wouldn't be surprised if he were to advocate a number of anti-religious measures in the next elections. Aimed mainly at muslims instead of christians, but still enough to scare the christian parties anyway.

It's a bit tricky to work out his position on anything though as his parties homepage lists no political views or positions whatsoever. Apparently it's up to the reader to go through 30 or so intervies and distill the relevant information from them.

On a sidenote, yesterday mornings paper reported his party has now dropped to only 5 seats in parliament in the polls. It's little lift-ups like that that restore my faith in the population.

Unless you now want to keep him, we'll take him anyway. Pat & Jerry would swoon with raptureous delight at the anti-muslim views alone. After all, they are more interested in the 'bottom line' than anything else. Dollars and the power that goes with them are their gosple and hatred is their offering. Methinks, from what you've told us, your boy'd fit right in.

And it might be refreshing to see a political party with a web page that has nothing to say, depending of course, upon how many words they take to say it....


"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)

"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres


"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude

Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,

and Crypto-Communist!

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