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filthy
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Posted - 03/07/2005 :  09:32:15  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message
As the history of human evolution becomes ever clearer, it becomes even more complicated.
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Like Lucy?

The as yet unnamed fossil creature, found in February at a new site called Mille in the Afar region of Ethiopia, looks to be even older than Lucy.


Could the skeleton be even older than Lucy?
The remains include a complete tibia from the lower part of the leg, parts of the thighbone or femur, ribs, vertebrae, a collarbone, pelvis and a complete shoulder blade.

"The discovery of 12 early hominid fossil specimens estimated to be between 3.8 and 4 million years old will be important in terms of understanding the early phases of human evolution before Lucy," Yohannes Haile Selassie told a news conference.

Researchers are often happy to find isolated bones belonging to human ancestors of this age, so to find a partial skeleton is exceptional.

Questions, wonderful queations. Is this creature of the same species as Lucy, in direct lineage to ourselves? Or is it a subspecies of.... something else? A species perhaps, that spawned it and possibly others, including Lucy. The door is open wide to great speculations awaiting evidence for their confirmation. Most will fail, some few will advance our knowledge.

AiG will claim that it's an ape drowned in the Flood.


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BigPapaSmurf
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Posted - 03/07/2005 :  09:45:56   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send BigPapaSmurf a Private Message
Really I would expect many more types to be found, dwarfed only by the number of types that will never be found. Most folks seem to think that the lineage of humanity is pretty well known, but not I.

"...things I have neither seen nor experienced nor heard tell of from anybody else; things, what is more, that do not in fact exist and could not ever exist at all. So my readers must not believe a word I say." -Lucian on his book True History

"...They accept such things on faith alone, without any evidence. So if a fraudulent and cunning person who knows how to take advantage of a situation comes among them, he can make himself rich in a short time." -Lucian critical of early Christians c.166 AD From his book, De Morte Peregrini
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tomk80
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Posted - 03/07/2005 :  10:38:24   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit tomk80's Homepage Send tomk80 a Private Message
A very cool find. The development of theories of human evolution will be worth watching the following years.

Tom

`Contrariwise,' continued Tweedledee, `if it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; but as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic.'
-Through the Looking Glass by Lewis Caroll-
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furshur
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Posted - 03/07/2005 :  11:43:33   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send furshur a Private Message
Very cool indeed. I couldn't help but notice the caption to the picture:
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Scientists say the bones prove the skeleton walked upright


If I knew then what I know now then I would know more now than I know.
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tomk80
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Posted - 03/07/2005 :  11:57:46   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit tomk80's Homepage Send tomk80 a Private Message
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Originally posted by furshur

Very cool indeed. I couldn't help but notice the caption to the picture:
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Scientists say the bones prove the skeleton walked upright




I guess that proves the existance of necromancy than

Tom

`Contrariwise,' continued Tweedledee, `if it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; but as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic.'
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filthy
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Posted - 03/11/2005 :  14:30:34   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message
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AiG will claim that it's an ape drowned in the Flood.



Well, not quite as I predicted, but close enough for government work.
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Hominid Fever

Yet another alleged early human ancestor unearthed

by guest columnist Peter Line, Ph.D.

11 March 2005

It seems these days that there are precious few ordinary human or ape fossils unearthed, rather they all have to be a missing link between the two. The latest contender for ‘apeman' fame, this time as the ‘world's oldest early human skeleton' or ‘oldest walking hominid',1 consists of bones from a site in the northeastern Afar region of Ethiopia, ‘dated' at between 3.8 to 4 million years ago. The remains include a complete tibia and shoulder blade, as well as parts of a femur, ribs, vertebrae, collarbone and pelvis, as well as an ankle bone. The fossil remains of up to 11 other individuals are also reported to have been found. As the finds have not been published in a journal, nor been reviewed by outside scientists, it is difficult to make an assessment of the find at this stage, except what can be interpreted from a few quotes from ‘hominid' fossil experts released to the media.

It is stated that ‘Scientists are yet to classify the new find, which they believe falls between A. ramidus and A. afarensis. The fossils would help “join the dots” between the two hominids, said Yohannes Haile-Selassie, an Ethiopian scientist and curator at the Cleveland Museum of Natural History as well as a co-leader of the discovery team'.2 Falling between Australopithecus ramidus and Australopithecus afarensis (e.g. ‘Lucy') hardly boosts its status as a missing link hominid. According to Peter Andrews, of London's Natural History Museum, the thin enamel on the teeth of ramidus ‘is more of what you'd expect from a fossil chimp', and the features of an upper arm bone ‘suggests knuckle-walking, chimp-style'.3 Even the team that discovered ramidus admits that the specimen ‘shows a host of characters usually associated with modern apes'.4

I've no doubt that as more info is gathered and examined, AiG's blitherings will become yet more amusing. They will pose as experts without ever seeing the specimens nor giving the literature serious study.


"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)

"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres


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