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BigPapaSmurf
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Posted - 03/09/2005 :  13:47:41  Show Profile Send BigPapaSmurf a Private Message
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4333801.stm

What a baffling award.

"...things I have neither seen nor experienced nor heard tell of from anybody else; things, what is more, that do not in fact exist and could not ever exist at all. So my readers must not believe a word I say." -Lucian on his book True History

"...They accept such things on faith alone, without any evidence. So if a fraudulent and cunning person who knows how to take advantage of a situation comes among them, he can make himself rich in a short time." -Lucian critical of early Christians c.166 AD From his book, De Morte Peregrini

Siberia
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Posted - 03/09/2005 :  13:54:11   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Siberia's Homepage  Send Siberia an AOL message  Send Siberia a Yahoo! Message Send Siberia a Private Message
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Mr Townes said many people did not realise that science involves faith.

This made me twitch.

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Plyss
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Posted - 03/09/2005 :  14:54:04   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Plyss a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by BigPapaSmurf

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4333801.stm

What a baffling award.



I'm tempted to ask how exactly this "award" improves the understanding of religion, but i'm afraid of the answer.
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filthy
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Posted - 03/09/2005 :  14:54:15   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message
At least he doesn't let superstition interfere with his science.

I wonder what "religious institutions" he plans to donate a portion of his prize to.


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TG
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Posted - 03/09/2005 :  16:24:17   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send TG a Private Message
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Previous winners have included Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, Billy Graham and the late Mother Teresa.
Billy Graham and Mother Teresa???
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... recent winners have been scientists

Although he's done more to
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advance spiritual knowledge
than any of those mentioned, I gather Richard Dawkins was not in the running.
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H. Humbert
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Posted - 03/09/2005 :  16:29:45   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send H. Humbert a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by TG
Although he's done more to
quote:
advance spiritual knowledge
than any of those mentioned, I gather Richard Dawkins was not in the running.
True, but I have a feeling Dawkins has advanced spritual knowledge in the opposite direction they would have liked it to have gone.


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woolytoad
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Posted - 03/09/2005 :  16:32:22   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send woolytoad a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Siberia

quote:
Mr Townes said many people did not realise that science involves faith.

This made me twitch.



That's correct in a sense. The scientific method is self correcting, but that's assuming scientists do their job correctly. Scientists will falsify data and results too sometimes. You know what they say about egos. But that's not like having faith in a deity though....
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Ricky
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Posted - 03/09/2005 :  19:15:10   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Ricky an AOL message Send Ricky a Private Message
Apparently, having faith that the nuclear forces which hold an atom together won't suddenly disappear is the same as having faith in some supernatural deity.

Who woulda thunk?

Why continue? Because we must. Because we have the call. Because it is nobler to fight for rationality without winning than to give up in the face of continued defeats. Because whatever true progress humanity makes is through the rationality of the occasional individual and because any one individual we may win for the cause may do more for humanity than a hundred thousand who hug their superstitions to their breast.
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