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Dude
SFN Die Hard

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Posted - 06/20/2005 :  19:34:21  Show Profile Send Dude a Private Message
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8291710/

Cosmos 1 heading for orbit Teusday.

Should be some interesting data generated by this.


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furshur
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USA
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Posted - 06/21/2005 :  09:44:55   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send furshur a Private Message
Here is a little more info on the spacecraft and launch (3:45 pm EDT).

http://www.planetary.org/solarsail/




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Dude
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Posted - 06/21/2005 :  14:02:45   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Dude a Private Message
http://www.solarsail.org/video.html

Will be live video of the craft passing overhead, check the schedule.

First one is thursday.


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Dude
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Posted - 06/21/2005 :  16:42:11   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Dude a Private Message
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8304717/

Doesn't look good at this point.....


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Dude
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Posted - 06/21/2005 :  23:38:24   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Dude a Private Message
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8304717/

But now it looks better....

[/rollercoaster]

This project could have some significant implications if it works as predicted.

Robotic missions to nearby stars, for one.

(edit: apparently MSNBC just keeps updating the same page by changing the first couple paragraphs of the story.... heh. That is why the link is the same.)


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Edited by - Dude on 06/21/2005 23:39:54
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Dude
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Posted - 06/22/2005 :  06:44:59   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Dude a Private Message
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8304717/

and the pendulum swings back....

now there was apparently a booster rocket failure....


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Dave W.
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Posted - 06/22/2005 :  21:42:29   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message
The Planetary Society has a blog for updates on this mission. They actually still seem hopeful that it made orbit. They're just fairly certain it's not the orbit it should be in.

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Dude
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Posted - 06/22/2005 :  22:07:47   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Dude a Private Message
Well, if they can't find the thing.... I hope they pick themselves up, get up and try again.


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filthy
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Posted - 06/23/2005 :  00:50:42   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Dude

Well, if they can't find the thing.... I hope they pick themselves up, get up and try again.



I'm sure that they, or somebody, will. It's just too interesting an experiment to abandon over an initial failure. Perhaps the silver lining in this noxious cloud could be an improved launching system.

SF writers have put light sails to good use for generations. Larry Niven did a fair number of them, as I recall.


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Dude
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Posted - 06/23/2005 :  08:25:48   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Dude a Private Message
Its the cheap and poorly maintained Russian rockets that they used to launch....


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filthy
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Posted - 06/23/2005 :  12:00:49   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Dude

Its the cheap and poorly maintained Russian rockets that they used to launch....



Probably and unfortunatly, you are right. You get what you pay for, eh?

This morning, I read, but can no longer find, an article that claimed the werckage came down in Finland. Anyone hear anything about that?


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Ricky
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Posted - 06/23/2005 :  17:53:07   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Ricky an AOL message Send Ricky a Private Message
From Wikipedia:

quote:
Finally, at 10:30 PDT on June 22 (17:30 UTC), the Planetary Society issued a statement that "the Russian space agency (RKA) has made a tentative conclusion that the Volna rocket carrying Cosmos 1 failed during the firing of the first stage. This would mean that Cosmos 1 is lost," but data "might indicate that Cosmos 1 made it into orbit, but probably a lower one than intended. The project team now considers this to be a very small probability."


...

quote:

The craft would have been visible to the naked eye from most of the Earth's surface: the planned orbit has an inclination of 80, so it would have been visible from latitudes of up to approximately 80 north and south.


So if it had a lower orbit, why can't people just look up and see if it is there?

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Dr. Mabuse
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Posted - 06/24/2005 :  18:46:05   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Dr. Mabuse an ICQ Message Send Dr. Mabuse a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by filthy
This morning, I read, but can no longer find, an article that claimed the werckage came down in Finland. Anyone hear anything about that?

That's the rumour I heard from a Finnish coworker late wednesday evening (Central European Time). But I couldn't find any confirmation of it.

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