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Dry_vby
Skeptic Friend
Australia
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 Posted - 08/31/2005 : 15:12:25
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From the New York Times:
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/31/national/31religion.html?th&emc=th
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"It's like they're saying, 'Some people see it this way, some see it that way, so just teach it all and let the kids figure it out.' It seems like a nice compromise, but it infuriates both the creationists and the scientists," said Mr. Green, who is also a professor at the University of Akron in Ohio.
Eugenie C. Scott, the director of the National Center for Science Education and a prominent defender of evolution, said the findings were not surprising because "Americans react very positively to the fairness or equal time kind of argument."
"In fact, it's the strongest thing that creationists have got going for them because their science is dismal," Ms. Scott said. "But they do have American culture on their side."
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"I'll go along with the charade
Until I can think my way out.
I know it was all a big joke
Whatever it was about."
Bob Dylan
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H. Humbert
SFN Die Hard
USA
4574 Posts |
Posted - 08/31/2005 : 15:55:38 [Permalink]
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From the article:
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In all, 64 percent said they were open to the idea of teaching creationism in addition to evolution, while 38 percent favored replacing evolution with creationism.
Unless my math is off, that's 102% of the people polled. And these two categories are mutually exclusive (Creationism and Evolution vs. Creationism instead of Evolution).
I'm guessing what happened is that 38% who first said they wanted Creationism to be taught as an addition changed their answers to "Creationism only" when they heard that option presented. Sloppy polling, but disheartening nonetheless.
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Kil
Evil Skeptic
USA
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Posted - 08/31/2005 : 16:41:23 [Permalink]
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quote:
"It's like they're saying, 'Some people see it this way, some see it that way, so just teach it all and let the kids figure it out.' It seems like a nice compromise, but it infuriates both the creationists and the scientists," said Mr. Green, who is also a professor at the University of Akron in Ohio.
Baloney. Good science is not up for election…
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Dude
SFN Die Hard
USA
6891 Posts |
Posted - 08/31/2005 : 18:34:22 [Permalink]
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As Kil said... science is not a democratic process.
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Hawks
SFN Regular
Canada
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Posted - 08/31/2005 : 18:38:31 [Permalink]
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quote:
"It's like they're saying, 'Some people see it this way, some see it that way, so just teach it all and let the kids figure it out.' It seems like a nice compromise, but it infuriates both the creationists and the scientists," said Mr. Green, who is also a professor at the University of Akron in Ohio.
And we could also teach our kids about the controversy about the reality of the holocaust, and then have them make up their own minds. |
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
USA
14408 Posts |
Posted - 08/31/2005 : 19:09:10 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by Hawks
quote:
"It's like they're saying, 'Some people see it this way, some see it that way, so just teach it all and let the kids figure it out.' It seems like a nice compromise, but it infuriates both the creationists and the scientists," said Mr. Green, who is also a professor at the University of Akron in Ohio.
And we could also teach our kids about the controversy about the reality of the holocaust, and then have them make up their own minds.
The moon landing hoax arguments come to mind....
And psychics.... say, y'know, that sort of thing could make high school General Science a really fun class... Kids wouldn't learn much, though.
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