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pleco
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Because your fleet commanders and radar operators are all "in on it"...obviously the military wouldn't have entrusted this information to you, filthy.
Plus, you must know by now that the NWO run by the Illuminazis (with possible influence from space aliens, it's true just trust me) are behind the whole thing. And naturally all the photos were published with easy to spot proofs of their fakery. You just have to block the mind-control waves with, yes, you guessed it, special sunglasses. Once you do this, these things make perfect sense.
lol...what a tool. |
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Kil
Evil Skeptic
USA
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Posted - 09/11/2005 : 17:23:41 [Permalink]
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Dear filthy and Kil, here we are like in a law-court.
I support my reasonings and you defend your opinions, but the people who read us must decide if I'm right or wrong, not you
Sorry, but you haven't supported your reasoning. I can't think of a single proof that you have offered that wasn't soundly debunked. That you choose to ignore any and all evidence that you don't agree with does not make you right. It makes you foolish.
Also, who is right is not up for election. A giant conspiracy either happened or it didn't happen. And since you have offered no credible evidence that NASA faked anything, there is simply no reason to think they did. This is not a matter of opinion unless we are talking about your opinion which happens to be wrong.
The burden of proof falls on you since you made the claim. And you have failed to deliver. Game over…
I must admit though, as a plaything, you are almost without peer. Your speculation that helicopters, without detection either visually or by radar, dropped all of the manned space capsules into the ocean is really very funny stuff. That's what I call entertainment. I regularly go to new age expos for similar entertainment. Peoples capacity to fool themselves never ceases to amaze me…
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R.Wreck
SFN Regular
USA
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Posted - 09/11/2005 : 17:58:58 [Permalink]
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Dear filthy and Kil, here we are like in a law-court.
I support my reasonings and you defend your opinions, but the people who read us must decide if I'm right or wrong, not you
I hereby find the defendant, bigbrain, guilty of being a complete moron. And thoroughly confuted too. |
The foundation of morality is to . . . give up pretending to believe that for which there is no evidence, and repeating unintelligible propositions about things beyond the possibliities of knowledge.
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Dry_vby
Skeptic Friend
Australia
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Posted - 09/11/2005 : 18:15:00 [Permalink]
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Dear filthy and Kil, here we are like in a law-court.
I support my reasonings and you defend your opinions, but the people who read us must decide if I'm right or wrong, not you
I hereby find the defendant, bigpain, AKA bigbuffoon, not guilty by way of insanity.
He is the unfortunate victim of a malfunctioning logic curcuit.
His grasp on reality is tenuous at best.
He lacks any awareness, self or otherwise.
I'm glad to see asylums using the internet as therapy.
So much better than endlessly weaving baskets or making tinfoil hats.
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Until I can think my way out.
I know it was all a big joke
Whatever it was about."
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Dr. Mabuse
Septic Fiend
Sweden
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Posted - 09/11/2005 : 21:56:15 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dry_vby
Dear filthy and Kil, here we are like in a law-court.
I support my reasonings and you defend your opinions, but the people who read us must decide if I'm right or wrong, not you
Science is not like a law-court. But lets pretend for a moment that it really is. I, as a jury-member (as I have been a bystander watching the debate back and forth) can easily conclude that Bigbrain have failed to present his case. All arguments have been flawed and detached from reality.
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furshur
SFN Regular
USA
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Posted - 09/12/2005 : 05:16:48 [Permalink]
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BIGBRAIN (tiny intelligence) has been found guilty of the crime of ignorance, stupidity, and a complete lack of critical thinking.
In other words your are a buffoon and all of your craps has been refuted.
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Subjectmatter
Skeptic Friend
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Posted - 09/12/2005 : 06:37:19 [Permalink]
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You know Bigbrain, there are plenty of conspiracies that actually probably do exist, albeit not in the magnitude that some people would argue. The Echelon system and the assasination of Kennedy are examples of quite plausible conspiracies. Although the exact nature of them I would not presume to know. Why don't you go harp about them instead? Then at least you can enjoy the illusion of sanity, even if being sane is currently beyond you.
There is unfortunatley not a big market for thinking brain dogs - your condition being much rarer than blindness - according to Pratchett there is only one in existence. As such they are probably quite expensive; but I personally am not interested in your craps so if you want to sell any more ideas to me they will have to be better developed. |
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bigbrain
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Posted - 09/12/2005 : 12:03:22 [Permalink]
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Look again at this picture
Imagine you are inside and are piloting it.
You may have even 100 gyros installed, but gyros can't "tell" you vertical position.
You, seated inside, can't realize vertical position.
If you were outside you could realize it.
If your "caravan-rocket" fell down to one of infinite directions, you would have to react immediately to put it in the right vertical position, but you don't know where you are really falling down and so you can't react in the right way.
Human reactions are to slow to react in time to keep vertical your "caravan rocket" that "wants" to fall down in all infinite directions and you haven't time to react and the conclusion is a big crash on the hard ground.
Try to balance on your forefinger a coke can.
Helicopters can stay in hovering because they have thrust on the top.
Imagine to fly thrusted by your powerful farts. You would fall down in one second.
 
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Subjectmatter
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BigPapaSmurf
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 09/12/2005 : 12:12:59 [Permalink]
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| Unless you were on the moon then your farts would maintian loft for much longer. |
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Valiant Dancer
Forum Goalie
USA
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Posted - 09/12/2005 : 12:20:25 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by bigbrain
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Look again at this picture
Imagine you are inside and are piloting it.
You may have even 100 gyros installed, but gyros can't "tell" you vertical position.
You, seated inside, can't realize vertical position.
If you were outside you could realize it.
If your "caravan-rocket" fell down to one of infinite directions, you would have to react immediately to put it in the right vertical position, but you don't know where you are really falling down and so you can't react in the right way.
Human reactions are to slow to react in time to keep vertical your "caravan rocket" that "wants" to fall down in all infinite directions and you haven't time to react and the conclusion is a big crash on the hard ground.
Try to balance on your forefinger a coke can.
Helicopters can stay in hovering because they have thrust on the top.
Imagine to fly thrusted by your powerful farts. You would fall down in one second.
No matter how long we look at the picture will fix your flawed premise. You even have the force of gravity traveling in arcs instead of straight down. In addition, the thrust passes through the axis of the craft making it a very stable platform.
Again with the "helicopters hover because the thrust is at the top" crap. Since this vechile was not designed to nor did it ever hover, why is this not
1) an invalid comparison
2) completely unrelated to the subject discussed
3) a reason for hovercraft to spontaneuously flip over
Hovercraft are "thrusted" from the bottom in the same manner as helicopters, yet they do not flip over under normal operating conditions.
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bigbrain
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Posted - 09/12/2005 : 12:52:32 [Permalink]
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Thrust at the top and thrust at the bottom are like day and night.
Tie your forefinger to the tongue of a coke can and try to balance it with your finger at the bottom. It is impossible.
Try to balance the coke can with your finger at the top. You can do it easily even if you move your arm.
It's not so difficult to understand this simple evidence.
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"Obsequium amicos, veritas odium parit" (Flattery gets friends, truth hatred)
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Subjectmatter
Skeptic Friend
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Posted - 09/12/2005 : 13:08:27 [Permalink]
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But... I have never had a problem balancing a coke can on the table...
On a table the thrust is definately from the bottom! Clearly there is a coca cola conspiracy as well! Well I for one have seen through the craps of the coke buffoons!!!! |
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Valiant Dancer
Forum Goalie
USA
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Posted - 09/12/2005 : 13:43:21 [Permalink]
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Thrust at the top and thrust at the bottom are like day and night.
Tie your forefinger to the tongue of a coke can and try to balance it with your finger at the bottom. It is impossible.
Try to balance the coke can with your finger at the top. You can do it easily even if you move your arm.
It's not so difficult to understand this simple evidence.
But the simple evidence is unrelated to thrusted aircraft.
It's not so simple to understand that a body at rest has different tolerance for imbalance than a body in motion.
Since hovercraft are thrusted from the bottom, explain why they do not flip over on a regular basis during normal operations.
The sad truth is that you are comparing balancing a can on your finger with dangling a can from your finger. Your internal comparison is even invalidly dissimilar. |
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bigbrain
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Posted - 09/12/2005 : 13:48:47 [Permalink]
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... I have never had a problem balancing a coke can on the table...
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There isn't a table under "caravan-rocket" but a gimbaled rocket engine in the centre, like your finger under the coke can.
 
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