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pleco
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 Posted - 10/12/2005 : 13:36:44 [Permalink]
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law of evolution's fittest
Huh? Where did you learn about ToE from? |
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Valiant Dancer
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Posted - 10/12/2005 : 13:38:18 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by ASR
My slippers...they're unnecessary. Why don't they do anything unnecessary?
Are you suggesting your slippers evolved? |
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Valiant Dancer
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Posted - 10/12/2005 : 13:48:17 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by ASR
all things that can be defined with yes or no i should say.
False dilemma.
http://www.datanation.com/fallacies/distract/fd.htm
Hydrogen content of the Sun: Yes? No? When? 70%? |
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Valiant Dancer
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Posted - 10/12/2005 : 13:50:16 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by ASR
Oh I recall how they mocked Freud...
1) You aren't Freud
2) Freud wasn't commenting on physical science
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ASR
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Posted - 10/12/2005 : 13:52:26 [Permalink]
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Ants: Dogs have fun, people have fun, cats have fun, dolphins have fun and chimps have fun. Have you ever seen an ant in your ant farm do anything but work?
As for my scientific evidence I offer up philosophy, which, if you do not believe in my theory, is a factor of evolution and thus a factor of science and is a scientific argument as a result. You MUST concede that evolution included philosophy somewhere along the line, otherwise we would not be able to think in that matter, it would be physically impossible. My argument is that emotions come from the mix of science and philosophy and that the odds of evolution accidentally creating emotions when prompted to develop philosophy so that we could survive more than other species is pretty far-fetched. I also argue that science, which is law dependent, could not have created something that is not law dependent, it would be outside of the scope of possibilities. I do not view science as an entity, I view science as all things that relate to the physical world, the physical world which functions through absolutes. The science brain also functions via absolutes. The first lifeform ever created had roots in science, but not philosophy, this is where my argument takes its stand. |
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Subjectmatter
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Posted - 10/12/2005 : 13:54:04 [Permalink]
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'How does my computer work' is most definately a science question, yet it has no yes/no answer.
'Does science provide truth' is definately a philosophical question, the answer would be in the form of a yes or a no (with pages and pages of justification, but that is beside the point)
Please look up the concept of 'science' and 'philosophy' in an encyclopedia (www.wikipedia.org is generally reliable) and try to use the words in at least nearly the same way as everyone else. |
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Subjectmatter
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Posted - 10/12/2005 : 13:58:32 [Permalink]
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You MUST concede that evolution included philosophy somewhere along the line, otherwise we would not be able to think in that matter, it would be physically impossible.
That the necessary conditions for the act of philosophizing evolved does not neccessarily mean that the act itself evolved.
My hair is a product of evolution, as is my taste; in a certain sense. But the act of cutting my hair to suit my taste did not evolve. Philosophy is not a part of human anatomy and physiology, it is an aspect of our behaviour. |
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ASR
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Posted - 10/12/2005 : 14:08:21 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Subjectmatter
'How does my computer work' is most definately a science question, yet it has no yes/no answer.
'Does science provide truth' is definately a philosophical question, the answer would be in the form of a yes or a no (with pages and pages of justification, but that is beside the point)
Please look up the concept of 'science' and 'philosophy' in an encyclopedia (www.wikipedia.org is generally reliable) and try to use the words in at least nearly the same way as everyone else.
If you read my theory you would know that I redefined what is science and what is philosophy, e.g. "I think therefore I am" is really an answer to two questions, sciece "Do I exist?" and philosophy "How do I know I exist?" the answers are "yes, because I can think" thus "I think therefore I am" eureka. How does a computer work is not a science question, a science question would be "Does a computer work like this?" science is trial and error. Does science provide truth is not a philosophical question, you are seeking fact. To retrieve an emotion from that you would answer "yes" then ask "How do I know it provides truth" hope that clarifies. |
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ASR
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Posted - 10/12/2005 : 14:10:15 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Subjectmatter
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You MUST concede that evolution included philosophy somewhere along the line, otherwise we would not be able to think in that matter, it would be physically impossible.
That the necessary conditions for the act of philosophizing evolved does not neccessarily mean that the act itself evolved.
My hair is a product of evolution, as is my taste; in a certain sense. But the act of cutting my hair to suit my taste did not evolve. Philosophy is not a part of human anatomy and physiology, it is an aspect of our behaviour.
I can't believe you don't get it. OUR BRAIN CONTROLS EVERYTHING THIS IS FACT. We would not be able to think philosophy any more than a blade of grass could if we did not have that hardwired into our brains. |
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ASR
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Posted - 10/12/2005 : 14:12:50 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by pleco
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law of evolution's fittest
Huh? Where did you learn about ToE from?
Survival of the fittest, everything evolves to adapt to better suit its surroundings increasing its odds of survival.
And kil who said I was a hit and run was dead wrong. |
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ASR
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Posted - 10/12/2005 : 14:15:51 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Valiant Dancer
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Originally posted by ASR
all things that can be defined with yes or no i should say.
False dilemma.
http://www.datanation.com/fallacies/distract/fd.htm
Hydrogen content of the Sun: Yes? No? When? 70%?
Philosophy asks "Whats the hydrogen content of the sun?" philosophy answers "Around 70%" BUT is this TRUE? Science question "Is the hydrogen content of the sun 70%? answer: Yes" |
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pleco
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Posted - 10/12/2005 : 14:16:16 [Permalink]
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Oh well goody for you that you proved Kil wrong. Bravo.
Your definition of evolution is simplistic. |
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ASR
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Posted - 10/12/2005 : 14:17:35 [Permalink]
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| think philosophically before someone corrects my typo |
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ASR
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Posted - 10/12/2005 : 14:19:17 [Permalink]
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| You are all having trouble comprehending scientific and philosophical thought processes. Like man had trouble believing that the earth could be round, you cannot understand what true science and true philosophy is. Don't be dumbasses I can't stand it. |
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pleco
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Posted - 10/12/2005 : 14:23:07 [Permalink]
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Okay, we are dumb. Now move along.
BTW, the earth is a sphere. Round is a two-dimensional attribute. |
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