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Kilik
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Here's a really good article on it-
http://www.pureinsight.org/pi/articles/2003/6/30/1678.html
Vidoes about the Yonaguni Megalith
http://www.wonder-okinawa.jp/024/english/hilight/024_0016.wvx
this next one's pretty cool-
http://www.wonder-okinawa.jp/024/english/hilight/024_0016_1.wvx
Here's a short video showing the similarities between Sout American sites and teh Yonaguni site
http://www.wonder-okinawa.jp/024/english/hilight/024_0022.ram
The islands out in the Pacific could be the outskirts of where some people think the land of Lemuria or Mu once was. Some have also noted that many ancient monuments strangely seem to be built for very large people. I haven't found a whole lot of info on the net about Mu or Lemuria but here are a couple sites so far-
http://www.huttoncommentaries.com/Other/Lemuria/evidence_of_lemuria.htm
http://www.brotherhoodoflife.com/MU.html
I saw on TV that some scientists are saying ome ancient accounts about it's location do actually conform to scientific ideas about earth plates etc. It Possibly was along what geologists now call the "superswell" area in the Pacific. Some people also say Mu was even older than Atlantis.
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/atlantida_mu/esp_lemuria_3.htm
http://www.thothweb.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=printview&t=184&start=30
http://www.lightnet.co.uk/informer/civilisations/japan.htm
There are other legends which connect to it, such as the Indian legend of Lumania. They may have constructed the moon itsel
http://www.nii.net/~obie/historygold.htm
All the researchers I have read about who examined the Yonaguni monuments and temples, stated that it is definite that at least parts of it are manmade. And it's massive
http://www.morien-institute.org/yonaguni.html
http://www.morien-institute.org/yonaguni_schoch1.html
http://www.morien-institute.org/imk12.html#mizostairs
http://www.xpeditionsmagazine.com/magazine/articles/japan/japan.html
http://www.toriitraining.com/yonaguni.htm
http://www.morien-institute.org/interview1_MK.html
http://www.grahamhancock.com/gallery/underwater/yonaguni.htm
Big enough to swim through
"It was obviously made, and used, in the distant past when the area was last above sea-level, "
Carved giant turtle image
Sphinx type carving?
" Around Yonaguni-jima there are a large number of stones, both above and below sea-level, which show clear evidence of 'wedge-marks' having been cut into the surfaces ready for splitting. Near the 'Tategami-iwa', there is a square-shaped megalith measuring more than 30 feet, and this is called 'Sekihi-iwa'."
similar to some above water sites
http://www.cyberspaceorbit.com/phikent/japan/japan2.html
http://www.grahamhancock.com/gallery/underwater/yonaguni2.htm
Facing east, and the rising sun
The main Ziguart at the Yonaguni site was discovered in 1986, but is wasn't studied so much at first because many people weren't really sure if it was man made or what it was. However, some of the things like the Giant head and stadium are much more recent finds. They are still finding new things around that general vicinity of the ocean
http://www.morien-institute.org/imk5.html
[URL=http://www.morien-institute.org/imk9.html
" The images below are of the mysterious 'gusuku cave' that extends inward, and slopes downward, under the gusuku structure. The two images showing the entrance are taken from the outside of the cave looking towards the semi-circular wall feature (left), and (right) from the inside of the cave looking out. It is clear for everyone to see that the 'entrance' has been 'artificially shaped', and this is not something that it is possible to imagine anyone would undertake to do to an 'underwater' cave ..."
"It was obviously made, and used, in the distant past when the area was last above sea-level, and currently the cave is blocked by an enormous accumulation of soil and sand to a depth of approximately 50 feet ..."
also, geology-
http://www.gainendesign.com/taizan/sakishima/island/island.html
quote:
Based on a resarch by Mr. Sakai at Kagoshima-Univ and Mr. Yazaki at Geological survey bureau.
Comment by Prof. Teruaki Ishii at Tokyo-Univ.
Surrounding of Mt. Urabu and south-east seashore area have the kind of geological features,
so callled "Yaeyama-Gunso"(Yaeyama Layer) made up of "Shale" and "Sandstone".
Arakawa-bana layer composed of Yaeyama-layer spreads from Arakawa-bana cape, just below which
The Structure Is there (see my illustration here), to Sanninu-Terace.
However says Prof. Ishii that the composition of The Structure itself is a little different from
those rocks of Arakawa-bana layer, and is "Silt".
http://www.lightnet.co.uk/informer/civilisations/japan.htm
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BigPapaSmurf
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Posted - 11/14/2005 : 13:30:06 [Permalink]
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Is this just FYI? DO YOU HAVE AN OPINION?
No doubt there are hundreds of sites which were previously coastal settlements which the sea reclaimed. This also may happen due to subsidance like is happening in New Orleans, which will be underwater in a few thousand years probably.
Like these temples uncovered by the tsunami...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/4312024.stm |
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Kilik
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Posted - 11/14/2005 : 16:22:28 [Permalink]
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| The last time the Yonaguni monuments were above water was 12,000 years ago |
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H. Humbert
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Posted - 11/14/2005 : 16:36:28 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by Kilik
The last time the Yonaguni monuments were above water was 12,000 years ago
What makes you think they are man-made aside from their superficial similarity to certain terrestrial sites?
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Siberia
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Posted - 11/14/2005 : 16:36:39 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by Kilik
The last time the Yonaguni monuments were above water was 12,000 years ago
... says who? |
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H. Humbert
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Posted - 11/14/2005 : 17:06:31 [Permalink]
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Dr. Kimura is high level and authoritative in his field and consults with many experts, he proved it to be manmade
What? He proved no such thing. In the very link you provided me, it listed three geologists who have dived the site -- Masaaki Kimura , Robert Schoch and Wolf Wichmann. In order, their conclusions were: man-made, not sure, and natural.
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Kilik
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Posted - 11/14/2005 : 17:09:11 [Permalink]
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| BUt Dr. Kimura I think has the most experience studying it and is the most knowledgable of those 3. I think that was a while ago, new discoveries have been made that prove it to be but by man with precise measurement and symmetry to create deliberate structures and shapes |
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astropin
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Posted - 11/15/2005 : 10:28:51 [Permalink]
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| Who cares if they were man made? What does that prove? |
I would rather face a cold reality than delude myself with comforting fantasies.
You are free to believe what you want to believe and I am free to ridicule you for it.
Atheism:
The result of an unbiased and rational search for the truth.
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Kilik
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Posted - 11/15/2005 : 10:31:53 [Permalink]
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| It proves the idea of Lemuria is probably true and is quite possible |
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BigPapaSmurf
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Posted - 11/15/2005 : 11:03:47 [Permalink]
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The ones who built the Moon, right.
PLEASE, just start by saying that, why do we have to beat the purpose of each thread out of you.
All it would prove is a civilization in Japan. Probably is a very lofty word. |
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"...They accept such things on faith alone, without any evidence. So if a fraudulent and cunning person who knows how to take advantage of a situation comes among them, he can make himself rich in a short time." -Lucian critical of early Christians c.166 AD From his book, De Morte Peregrini |
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Posted - 11/15/2005 : 11:42:21 [Permalink]
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So we've gone from one doomed allegedly advanced civilization to another. I don't hold much faith in the 12,000 year range. I'm thinking closer to 6,000. Advanced? Hardly. Carving stone happened over millenia. First to make weapons and tools, sometimes softer rock was dug out for stairs and some art work. Very primitive tools were used.
You are also talking about an area near the ring of fire in the Pacific. Places where upwellings of magma push some lands above sea level. When that upwelling of magma leaves or the dome it makes collapses, seaside communities in the area can be submerged suddenly.
This is neither evidence of an advanced society nor evidence for remarkable civilizations being wiped out.
The myth of Lemuria is no closer to having evidence that it had before. You have no advanced structures, no advanced artifacts, no marks of advanced civilization on the stones.
And BPS, in the Offspring theory of moon creation, the section of Earth that holds the Pacific basin was allegedly cast off into space to become the moon. No Lemurian mythos I have contact with allege that Lemurian technology created the moon. |
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Kilik
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Posted - 11/15/2005 : 15:48:04 [Permalink]
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The Yonaguni megalith area is sort of like what Bimini probably was, the last area of the higher land of the prehistoric civilizations to be submerged. But it still indicates pretty advanced building techniques, prehaps rivaling the other ancient meglithic structures in the world, such as Giza, Malta, and Stonehenge. It also indicates the people
probably practiced a spiritual life according to a strict daily regimine and even bears some similarities to Machu Pichu, which is strangely built on very high elevation ground |
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