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Scotty
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 Posted - 01/10/2006 : 05:56:41
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Here in the UK we had on TV last night a program by well known scientist Richard Dawking - well known as an active Athiest
He interviewed a group of Athiests - one of them stated that in the US to-day there's no way anyone could be elected to office if he professed he was an Athiest -
True?
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pleco
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Posted - 01/10/2006 : 06:20:08 [Permalink]
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| IMHO, I think this is more true than not. It would depend on the part of the country they were running in, but for the most part this would be correct. |
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filthy
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Posted - 01/10/2006 : 06:37:50 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Scotty
Here in the UK we had on TV last night a program by well known scientist Richard Dawking - well known as an active Athiest
He interviewed a group of Athiests - one of them stated that in the US to-day there's no way anyone could be elected to office if he professed he was an Athiest -
True?
Entirely. Except perhaps in Vermont; they made an avowed and unrepentant Socialist the mayor of Burlington, then elected him to the House of representitives, and now he's running the the Senate. He'll win it, too.
I don't know what Bernie Sanders' religious affilations might be, if any.
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Valiant Dancer
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Posted - 01/10/2006 : 06:45:08 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by Scotty
Here in the UK we had on TV last night a program by well known scientist Richard Dawking - well known as an active Athiest
He interviewed a group of Athiests - one of them stated that in the US to-day there's no way anyone could be elected to office if he professed he was an Athiest -
True?
Sadly, yes. Even before the insurgence of religious fevor, atheists were rarely elected to office. Even though states who had religious tests written into their state constitutions had them overturned in courts, religion still remains a campaign issue.
Although not being the RIGHT religion is also a problem in most areas of the US as well. It's a societally enforced informal religious test imposed on candidates. |
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Scotty
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 01/10/2006 : 07:52:30 [Permalink]
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Thanks guys - coming from the UK where - in the words of Tony Blair's one time spokesman politicians "don't do religion" - this is a real eye opener...
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BigPapaSmurf
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Posted - 01/10/2006 : 08:21:26 [Permalink]
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| Hell, even Catholics couldnt get elected in certain parts of the country. |
"...things I have neither seen nor experienced nor heard tell of from anybody else; things, what is more, that do not in fact exist and could not ever exist at all. So my readers must not believe a word I say." -Lucian on his book True History
"...They accept such things on faith alone, without any evidence. So if a fraudulent and cunning person who knows how to take advantage of a situation comes among them, he can make himself rich in a short time." -Lucian critical of early Christians c.166 AD From his book, De Morte Peregrini |
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BigPapaSmurf
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Posted - 01/10/2006 : 08:22:37 [Permalink]
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| Bernie Sanders is Jewish by the way, according to Answers.com |
"...things I have neither seen nor experienced nor heard tell of from anybody else; things, what is more, that do not in fact exist and could not ever exist at all. So my readers must not believe a word I say." -Lucian on his book True History
"...They accept such things on faith alone, without any evidence. So if a fraudulent and cunning person who knows how to take advantage of a situation comes among them, he can make himself rich in a short time." -Lucian critical of early Christians c.166 AD From his book, De Morte Peregrini |
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Ricky
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pleco
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Posted - 01/10/2006 : 11:17:45 [Permalink]
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| I wonder if there is a poll of atheists asking them if they would not vote for someone because they are an evangelical christian? |
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BigPapaSmurf
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Posted - 01/10/2006 : 11:51:21 [Permalink]
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| Well I know we anuminists would be almost 100% against such a candidate, unless of course the other option was worse, like a Scientologist. |
"...things I have neither seen nor experienced nor heard tell of from anybody else; things, what is more, that do not in fact exist and could not ever exist at all. So my readers must not believe a word I say." -Lucian on his book True History
"...They accept such things on faith alone, without any evidence. So if a fraudulent and cunning person who knows how to take advantage of a situation comes among them, he can make himself rich in a short time." -Lucian critical of early Christians c.166 AD From his book, De Morte Peregrini |
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Ricky
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pleco
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Posted - 01/10/2006 : 13:41:28 [Permalink]
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| I guess I said that because it shouldn't be a shock that religious persons would not vote for an atheist just like atheists would not vote for religious persons. |
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H. Humbert
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Posted - 01/10/2006 : 13:54:17 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by pleco
I guess I said that because it shouldn't be a shock that religious persons would not vote for an atheist just like atheists would not vote for religious persons.
Atheists might not vote for fanatically religious people, but they vote for religious people all the time. There are no non-religious candiates to choose from. I voted for Kerry the last presidential election.
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pleco
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Posted - 01/10/2006 : 13:57:47 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by H. Humbert
Atheists might not vote for fanatically religious people, but they vote for religious people all the time. There are no non-religious candiates to choose from. I voted for Kerry the last presidential election.
This is true. I should have qualified my statement. There are probably different "kinds" (lol) of atheists, meaning I'm sure there are some that would never vote for a religious person of any type.
Would it be fair to say that atheists are more "open minded" in voting preferences than religious people (of any type)? |
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Valiant Dancer
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Posted - 01/10/2006 : 14:50:45 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by pleco
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Originally posted by H. Humbert
Atheists might not vote for fanatically religious people, but they vote for religious people all the time. There are no non-religious candiates to choose from. I voted for Kerry the last presidential election.
This is true. I should have qualified my statement. There are probably different "kinds" (lol) of atheists, meaning I'm sure there are some that would never vote for a religious person of any type.
Would it be fair to say that atheists are more "open minded" in voting preferences than religious people (of any type)?
I believe that it would be fair to say that atheists are more likely to vote for a candidate based on the central governmental issues of the race instead of religious affiliation. (Although, one could make a strong argument that atheists who always vote against rabidly religious people have a valid governmental issue against the entanglement of church and state.)
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beskeptigal
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Posted - 01/11/2006 : 05:03:51 [Permalink]
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| You couldn't get elected President. I'm not so sure you couldn't get elected to other offices. |
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