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Hawks
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Posted - 01/10/2006 :  15:19:10  Show Profile  Visit Hawks's Homepage Send Hawks a Private Message
I'm fairly sure that I've read in a biology textbook once upon a time about the existence of cyclops (someone/thing that only has one eye). This news item made me wonder if this really happens or if it's a hoax. I can see how this could happen (a mutation makes the bilateral unilateral).I did a quick search of the literature, but found nothing on the subject. Does anyone have any info?


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Dude
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Posted - 01/10/2006 :  15:35:11   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Dude a Private Message
quote:
The kitten, a ragdoll breed, which died after living for one day,


Please note the EYE of that kitten....

Personally, I have never seen a kitten with open eyes before they are a week or more old.

Photoshop strikes again.


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GeeMack
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Posted - 01/10/2006 :  15:47:10   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send GeeMack a Private Message
I had heard of this cyclops kitten and was actually looking for more information on it when I stumbled across an article about evolution in cats. I opened this thread over in our Creation/Evolution forum.

And I haven't done any checking into the authenticity of the cyclops kitty, but I have seen that photo. You're right, Dude, it does look a bit manufactured.
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H. Humbert
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Posted - 01/10/2006 :  15:50:06   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send H. Humbert a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Dude
Photoshop strikes again.
I agree.

As for the origin of the mythological cyclops, I have heard it surmised that the Greeks may have found an elephant skull and mistook the opening for the trunk as being a single eye socket.



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Edited by - H. Humbert on 01/10/2006 15:52:55
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Randy
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Posted - 01/10/2006 :  16:44:16   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Randy a Private Message
http://www.humandescent.com/index3.shtml
The site Human Descent first came to mind with all its Photoshop manipulations.

Then, what the heck...I ran 'cyclops' at Snopes....
http://www.snopes.com/photos/animals/cyclopes.asp

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Dude
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Posted - 01/10/2006 :  16:48:13   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Dude a Private Message
Ok, generally Snopes is fairly accurate on this stuff.

If it was indeed born with no eyelid... then my argument is more or less moot.


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H. Humbert
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Posted - 01/10/2006 :  18:01:21   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send H. Humbert a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Dude

Ok, generally Snopes is fairly accurate on this stuff.

Yeah, I wouldn't have thought this was true. Well, live and learn.

And see, us skeptic can be easily swayed, just give us evidence!


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pleco
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Posted - 01/10/2006 :  18:08:05   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit pleco's Homepage Send pleco a Private Message
That is a helluva deformity.

I imagine that back in the salad days as it were if a human baby were born with this condition it would have been summarily executed for any number of reasons.

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Dave W.
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Posted - 01/10/2006 :  21:06:53   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message
The other cyclopian kitten pictured on this page is even more freaky looking.

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Randy
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Posted - 01/10/2006 :  21:35:04   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Randy a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Dave W.

The other cyclopian kitten pictured on this page is even more freaky looking.



Try a Google image search on some of those deformity terms from that site. Strange, strange.

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trogdor
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Posted - 01/10/2006 :  21:48:59   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send trogdor a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Dave W.

The other cyclopian kitten pictured on this page is even more freaky looking.


scrolling down...

all sorts of other deformed kittens...

HOLY FUCKING SHIT OF GOD !!!!

that eye will haunt my dreams for years. thanks dave!

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beskeptigal
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Posted - 01/11/2006 :  04:49:02   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send beskeptigal a Private Message
I've got a book with human baby deformities too. They run in a similar range.
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Dave W.
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Posted - 01/11/2006 :  09:18:04   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by trogdor

that eye will haunt my dreams for years. thanks dave!
Well, if that freaked you out that much, I won't even post a link to the cyclops images I found on a human pathology site.

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Siberia
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quote:
Originally posted by Dave W.

quote:
Originally posted by trogdor

that eye will haunt my dreams for years. thanks dave!
Well, if that freaked you out that much, I won't even post a link to the cyclops images I found on a human pathology site.


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filthy
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Posted - 01/11/2006 :  10:47:05   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by H. Humbert

quote:
Originally posted by Dude
Photoshop strikes again.
I agree.

As for the origin of the mythological cyclops, I have heard it surmised that the Greeks may have found an elephant skull and mistook the opening for the trunk as being a single eye socket.



I dunno; I've always had a problem with this. the greeks were pretty fair anatomists and surely knew the holes in skulls of all sorts. And while I've read nothing on it, they and other cultures of the times were experienced seafarers and concievably familiar with pacyderms.

I think that they, like all of us, simply invented monsters.


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pleco
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Posted - 01/11/2006 :  10:59:33   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit pleco's Homepage Send pleco a Private Message
I would think that maybe a human baby was born with this condition and word spread until the Cyclops was invented.

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