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Jason Barker
Skeptic Friend
USA
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 Posted - 02/01/2006 : 16:47:46
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See the image at this link.
From the Coast to Coast website.
These people just settle for ANYTHING anymore when it comes to "proof".
[Edited to try to make our homepage readable again, sorry - Dave W.]
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GeeMack
SFN Regular
USA
1093 Posts |
Posted - 02/01/2006 : 17:06:55 [Permalink]
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When the launch master at a hot air balloon event wants to determine the approximate wind direction and velocity, he releases a black helium balloon, maybe 8 to 10 inches in diameter, just like a typical toy rubber balloon. Usually this test balloon is released just before the hot air balloons are given clearance to launch. Although it seems likely the test balloon would have been out of sight by the time those hot air balloons got to those positions in the sky, it's not impossible, especially if there was little wind. It's also not impossible that an additional test balloon was released.
Before any real concern might be given to the idea of an unidentified object, all the real possibilities of known, identifiable objects would need to be eliminated. In this case there is at least one pretty darn good possibility which doesn't seem to have been explored. 
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
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Posted - 02/01/2006 : 18:08:37 [Permalink]
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It was ridiculous for them to have blown up the speck, anyway. What was it, two pixels, before the camera's jpeg compression smeared even that? No additional information can be gotten from blowing up this speck, except to note the usual jpeg distortion.
Besides, someone has clearly doctored the "blowup" to make it look more like a UFO! Here's how the speck in the main photo actually looks after I enlarged it via Photoshop 7:
No longer a UFO, is it? |
“Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
USA
14408 Posts |
Posted - 02/01/2006 : 18:41:53 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by GeeMack
When the launch master at a hot air balloon event wants to determine the approximate wind direction and velocity, he releases a black helium balloon, maybe 8 to 10 inches in diameter, just like a typical toy rubber balloon. Usually this test balloon is released just before the hot air balloons are given clearance to launch. Although it seems likely the test balloon would have been out of sight by the time those hot air balloons got to those positions in the sky, it's not impossible, especially if there was little wind. It's also not impossible that an additional test balloon was released.
Before any real concern might be given to the idea of an unidentified object, all the real possibilities of known, identifiable objects would need to be eliminated. In this case there is at least one pretty darn good possibility which doesn't seem to have been explored.
I didn't know that.... How interesting and what perfect sense it makes.
I assume that the speck in question is at the pointy end of the red arrow, but I can't see it at all. As far as I know, it might be a balloon, a bird, a bat, or a bit of fly dropping on the print, after the fact.
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trogdor
Skeptic Friend
198 Posts |
Posted - 02/01/2006 : 18:51:30 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by filthy
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Originally posted by GeeMack
When the launch master at a hot air balloon event wants to determine the approximate wind direction and velocity, he releases a black helium balloon, maybe 8 to 10 inches in diameter, just like a typical toy rubber balloon. Usually this test balloon is released just before the hot air balloons are given clearance to launch. Although it seems likely the test balloon would have been out of sight by the time those hot air balloons got to those positions in the sky, it's not impossible, especially if there was little wind. It's also not impossible that an additional test balloon was released.
Before any real concern might be given to the idea of an unidentified object, all the real possibilities of known, identifiable objects would need to be eliminated. In this case there is at least one pretty darn good possibility which doesn't seem to have been explored.
I didn't know that.... How interesting and what perfect sense it makes.
I assume that the speck in question is at the pointy end of the red arrow, but I can't see it at all. As far as I know, it might be a balloon, a bird, a bat, or a bit of fly dropping on the print, after the fact.
the speck is a good inch from the end of the arrow. It is so small that photo doctoring to make something like this seems plain ridiculous! |
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JohnOAS
SFN Regular
Australia
800 Posts |
Posted - 02/12/2006 : 20:42:38 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by Jason Barker
These people just settle for ANYTHING anymore when it comes to "proof".
If you think UFOlogists are keen to make mountains out of molehills, check out this gem from the occultists!
I stumbled upon this while searching for some good solid scientific stuff for another post somewhere. I don't know how, it must've been "fate"  |
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marfknox
SFN Die Hard
USA
3739 Posts |
Posted - 02/12/2006 : 20:43:59 [Permalink]
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| Oh, that is totally the flying car from Harry Potter. Wizards are real!!! |
"Too much certainty and clarity could lead to cruel intolerance" -Karen Armstrong
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
15831 Posts |
Posted - 02/12/2006 : 21:08:07 [Permalink]
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That's hilarious, John! They got NOTHING!
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“Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
USA
14408 Posts |
Posted - 02/13/2006 : 02:27:00 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by JohnOAS
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Originally posted by Jason Barker
These people just settle for ANYTHING anymore when it comes to "proof".
If you think UFOlogists are keen to make mountains out of molehills, check out this gem from the occultists!
I stumbled upon this while searching for some good solid scientific stuff for another post somewhere. I don't know how, it must've been "fate"
Oh, now that's just pathetic.... 
No matter which way you turn it, it's still just a blured photo of a rock, concievbly taken after an extended pub-crawl.
The quality of our paranormal investigators' evidence is in a downward spiral -- even the Cottingsly Fairies were better done than that turkey.
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
and Crypto-Communist!
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