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BaccaBerri
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 Posted - 02/25/2006 : 13:28:54
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On my way to work the other day i saw a sign outside a church that says 'dusty bibles lead to dirty lives' is it just me or does anyone else find that offensive and just make you want go knock on the door and give them a peace of your mind out how wrong that way of thinking is.....
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Dude
SFN Die Hard
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 Posted - 02/25/2006 : 13:36:58 [Permalink]
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My favorite church sign reads: "Marriage is one man and women"
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marfknox
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 02/25/2006 : 14:01:16 [Permalink]
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In response to BaccaBerri,
No, I do not feel the urge to give them a piece of my mind. I believe in freedom of religion, and I think that a pluralistic society is desirable. If someone said that during a town meeting, it would be different. But we're talking about a church sign on private property. |
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BaccaBerri
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Posted - 02/25/2006 : 14:24:15 [Permalink]
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you don't find it rude to those reading it? you don't think that putting a sign like that which basically shows no tolerance for those who don't follow the bible uncalled for?
sorry 'bout the spelling i type faster then i think sometimes  |
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R.Wreck
SFN Regular
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Posted - 02/25/2006 : 14:53:21 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by BaccaBerri:
On my way to work the other day i saw a sign outside a church that says 'dusty bibles lead to dirty lives' is it just me or does anyone else find that offensive and just make you want go knock on the door and give them a peace of your mind out how wrong that way of thinking is.....
I think the message on the sign is moronic. I would not, however, waste my time on it. If I personally responded to every message I disagree with or found offensive, I would have time for little else. Besides, the price of living in a free society is sometimes being annoyed by differing views.
You could always rent your own billboard with your own message. Maybe "Open bibles lead to closed minds"? |
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BaccaBerri
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Posted - 02/25/2006 : 14:55:48 [Permalink]
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that's a good one 
i have no intention of saying anything it is just an annoyance to me, I have no patience for some things and signs like that are one that just grates on my nerves when i read them..... |
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marfknox
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Posted - 02/25/2006 : 15:05:32 [Permalink]
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BaccaBerri wrote: quote:
you don't find it rude to those reading it? you don't think that putting a sign like that which basically shows no tolerance for those who don't follow the bible uncalled for?
Don't confused tolerance with acceptance. I tolerate other belief systems. I do not accept them. The people who put up that church sign also tolerate the beliefs of those who disagree. But they don't accept it, and hope that they can change some people's mind through their public expression. Is it intolerant when The Simpsons or Family Guy make fun of fundamentalist Christians? Is it intolerant when public figures criticize any religious groups? Of course not. It only crosses the line into intolerance when we try to stop what other are doing with force. People legislating to outlaw gay marriage are intolerant because they are trying to use the force of the law to cause gays to conform to their morality. |
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Ricky
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BaccaBerri
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Posted - 02/25/2006 : 15:12:27 [Permalink]
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| fair enough.....living here the sign is more normal than anything else really. It's the double standard i would think, I can't understand what why anyone would think that i sign like that is ok....it's not the idea that the sign is going against non-believers, it's the idea that anyone who is not normally reading the bible is morally bad. Yes this may go to they are trying to make people read it more or whatever, but when someone who is easily led reads this they may come to the conclusion that it is true....there is the problem in my opinion anyway. |
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Ricky
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GeeMack
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Posted - 02/25/2006 : 15:56:25 [Permalink]
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Hey BaccaBerri, here's a way to have a little fun with it. You might get a kick out of this old SFN thread. 
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JohnOAS
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Posted - 02/25/2006 : 17:34:20 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by BaccaBerri
fair enough.....living here the sign is more normal than anything else really. It's the double standard i would think, I can't understand what why anyone would think that i sign like that is ok....it's not the idea that the sign is going against non-believers, it's the idea that anyone who is not normally reading the bible is morally bad.
You're also assuming that "dirty lives" are a bad thing. You are of course free to agree with this premise, but that doesn't make it true.
If you're going to be offended by every stupid/ignorant/incorrect billboard, methinks you're going to be a very busy protestor! I'd suggest you'll need more tha a handful of good personal assistants to stay on top of the correspondence. |
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BaccaBerri
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Posted - 02/25/2006 : 17:41:54 [Permalink]
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| I suppose i would be busy lol.....I was just making a comment about this one because it hit a nerve with me i guess i'm tired of the idea that it is meant to stand for, not just the sign itself |
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HalfMooner
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Posted - 02/25/2006 : 18:50:58 [Permalink]
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BaccaBerri, I suggest you throw this one back in their faces:
Thanks, GeeMack and Randy, you led me to the church sign site by stages.
Or, another one, Bacca:
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beskeptigal
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 02/25/2006 : 20:54:42 [Permalink]
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| I think the dirty lives sign is offensive. Free speech says I wouldn't bother knocking on the door. But two guys with church name tags came to my door this morning. I told then they were full of it and shut the door. Normally If I have time I talk to these guys and tell them all the horrible immoral things God in the Bible says is OK like killing Amanite babies and Lot having sex with his daughters and blaming them. |
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
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Posted - 02/25/2006 : 21:24:04 [Permalink]
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B. said:quote:
I think the dirty lives sign is offensive.
I agree, and BaccaBerri merely said as much. An insult, especially one that was so clearly intended as such, should be seen as what it is, though it was clearly free speech. What really gripes me about it is the implicit sense of ignorant, smarmy superiority the sign expressed.
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| Edited by - HalfMooner on 02/25/2006 21:32:25 |
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