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Ghost_Skeptic
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Posted - 03/14/2006 :  23:29:56  Show Profile Send Ghost_Skeptic a Private Message
Although this isn't as interesting as Filthy's Lesbian Lizards, I thought you might be interested to hear about a new species of rodent discovered in Laos last year is a member of a 40 million year old family which was previously though to have become extinct 11 million years ago - a rodent coelacanth

http://www.carnegiemnh.org/news/06-jan-mar/030906laonastes.htm

or listen to:
http://www.cbc.ca/quirks/media/2005-2006/mp3/qq-2006-03-11b.mp3

How do I edit these hyperlinks?

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beskeptigal
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Posted - 03/14/2006 :  23:48:47   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send beskeptigal a Private Message
Add parentheses in addition to the usual code: [ url="xyz.xxx" ]insert name[ /url ] (minus the extra spaces of course.)
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filthy
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Posted - 03/15/2006 :  00:43:30   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message
I read about that a little while back. Then, at one of our off-the-cuff pistol matches, I ragged a churchy friend (OEC & ID supporter) into stating that there were no important, mammalian species to be discovered, only subspecies and minor ones at that. When I offered to put up a little cash on it, he retracted the statement instantly.

I need some fresh meat -- they've all come to know me too well.

I dislike the term "living fossil," and the breathless excitement surrounding it. There are just so many of them! Speaking time-line wise, the only differences between a horseshoe crab and this rat is that the crab's lineage is a lot older and that we've always known about it.

I'm looking forward to reading of it's status in it's natural habitat as well as the behavior of captive specimens. It should be very interesting, as rodents are an important part of the diets of virtually all small and some not-so-small predators. The little guy has been around a long time under some tough conditions.




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Dr. Mabuse
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Posted - 03/15/2006 :  11:27:58   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Dr. Mabuse an ICQ Message Send Dr. Mabuse a Private Message
How to disguise a hyperlink:

Start with the forum tag hyperlink by clicking the Globe-icon. This produces the url forum tag:
[url][/url]

Then you need to add ="" to that tag
[url=""][/url]

After that you insert the link (in blue) between the quote-signs and the text (in red) between the start- and end- url-tag:
[url="http://www.carnegiemnh.org/news/06-jan-mar/030906laonastes.htm"]Read the article[/url]


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Ghost_Skeptic
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Posted - 03/15/2006 :  23:20:33   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Ghost_Skeptic a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by filthy

I dislike the term "living fossil," and the breathless excitement surrounding it. There are just so many of them! Speaking time-line wise, the only differences between a horseshoe crab and this rat is that the crab's lineage is a lot older and that we've always known about it.

Yes, the horseshoe crab has remained essentially unchanged ro much longer and the first Amoeba is still alive. Actually there a lot of large gaps in the fossil record - we only notice them when there is a living animal at the other end of the gap.
quote:

I'm looking forward to reading of it's status in it's natural habitat as well as the behavior of captive specimens. It should be very interesting, as rodents are an important part of the diets of virtually all small and some not-so-small predators. The little guy has been around a long time under some tough conditions.


So far they have only turned up dead in the Laotion markets. Unfortunately, the two legged predators might finish them off completely.

"You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink. / You can send a kid to college but you can't make him think." - B.B. King

History is made by stupid people - The Arrogant Worms

"The greater the ignorance the greater the dogmatism." - William Osler

"Religion is the natural home of the psychopath" - Pat Condell

"The day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the supreme being as his father in the womb of a virgin, will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter" - Thomas Jefferson
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filthy
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Posted - 03/16/2006 :  00:32:28   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message
Yeah, but we could at least learn what they taste like... I would think that they would go well in brunswick stew.






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H. Humbert
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Posted - 03/16/2006 :  01:49:57   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send H. Humbert a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by filthy

Yeah, but we could at least learn what they taste like... I would think that they would go well in brunswick stew.


Ha! I know my first response upon seeing a living Apatosaurus would be awe. My second would probably be to wonder what the thing's ribs tasted like with a little BBQ sauce...


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Edited by - H. Humbert on 03/16/2006 01:50:42
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Valiant Dancer
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Posted - 03/16/2006 :  06:46:20   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Valiant Dancer's Homepage Send Valiant Dancer a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by filthy

Yeah, but we could at least learn what they taste like... I would think that they would go well in brunswick stew.









And thusly we have the old joke once again.

Northern US zoos have descriptions of the animals.

Southern US zoos have descriptions and receipes for the animals.


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filthy
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Posted - 03/16/2006 :  07:43:22   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Valiant Dancer

quote:
Originally posted by filthy

Yeah, but we could at least learn what they taste like... I would think that they would go well in brunswick stew.









And thusly we have the old joke once again.

Northern US zoos have descriptions of the animals.

Southern US zoos have descriptions and receipes for the animals.








"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)

"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres


"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude

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beskeptigal
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Posted - 03/16/2006 :  14:18:31   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send beskeptigal a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Dr. Mabuse

How to disguise a hyperlink:

Start with the forum tag hyperlink by clicking the Globe-icon. This produces the url forum tag:
[url][/url]

Then you need to add ="" to that tag
[url=""][/url]

After that you insert the link (in blue) between the quote-signs and the text (in red) between the start- and end- url-tag:
[url="http://www.carnegiemnh.org/news/06-jan-mar/030906laonastes.htm"]Read the article[/url]



Clever boy. You stuck silent italics code in there to prevent the url code from activating. I had tried and failed to use [code][/code] to get the same effect. Now I know a new trick.
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beskeptigal
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Posted - 03/16/2006 :  14:24:17   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send beskeptigal a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Valiant Dancer

quote:
Originally posted by filthy

Yeah, but we could at least learn what they taste like... I would think that they would go well in brunswick stew...


And thusly we have the old joke once again.

Northern US zoos have descriptions of the animals.

Southern US zoos have descriptions and receipes for the animals.


Just be sure to throw away the squirrel brains.

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