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 Balmy pole 55 m.y.a. hints at worse global warming
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HalfMooner
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Posted - 05/31/2006 :  13:54:03  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message
I found this AP article from CNN.com interesting, especially in its implications for a worst-case global warming scenario in our future:
quote:
Scientists: North Pole was hot hot hot

Wednesday, May 31, 2006; Posted: 2:03 p.m. EDT (18:03 GMT)

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Scientists have found what might have been the ideal ancient vacation hotspot with a 74-degree Fahrenheit (23-degree Celsius) average temperature, alligator ancestors and palm trees. It's smack in the middle of the Arctic.

Core samples dug up from deep beneath the Arctic Ocean floor show that 55 million years ago an area near the North Pole was practically a subtropical paradise, three new studies show.

The scientists say their findings are a glimpse backward into a much warmer-than-thought polar region heated by run-amok greenhouse gases that came about naturally.

Skeptics of man-made causes of global warming have nothing to rejoice over, however. The researchers say their studies, appearing in Thursday's issue of Nature, also offer a peek at just how bad conditions can get.

"It probably was (a tropical paradise) but the mosquitoes were probably the size of your head," said Yale geology professor Mark Pagani, a study co-author.

And what a watery, swampy world it must have been.

"Imagine a world where there are dense sequoia trees and cypress trees like in Florida that ring the Arctic Ocean," said Pagani, a member of the multinational Arctic Coring Expedition that conducted the research.

Millions of years ago the Earth experienced an extended period of natural global warming. But around 55 million years ago there was a sudden supercharged spike of carbon dioxide that accelerated the greenhouse effect.

Scientists already knew this "thermal event" happened but are not sure what caused it. Perhaps massive releases of methane from the ocean, the continent-sized burning of trees, lots of volcanic eruptions.

Many experts figured that while the rest of the world got really hot, the polar regions were still comfortably cooler, maybe about 52 degrees Fahrenheit (11 Celsius).

But the new research found the polar average was closer to 74 degrees Fahrenheit (23 Celsius).

"It's the first time we've looked at the Arctic. And, man, it was a big surprise to us," said study co-author Kathryn Moran, an oceanographer at the University of Rhode Island. "It's a new look to how the Earth can respond to these peaks in carbon dioxide."

It's enough to make Santa Claus break into a sweat.

The estimated temperature, based on core samples which act as a climatic time capsule, was probably the year-round average, but because data is so limited it might also be just the summertime average, researchers said.

What's troubling is that this hints that future projections for warming -- several degrees over the next century -- may be on the low end, said study lead author Appy Sluijs of the Institute of Environmental Biology at Utrecht University in the Netherlands.

Also it shows that what happened 55 million years ago was proof that too much carbon dioxide -- more than four times current levels -- can cause global warming, said another co-author Henk Brinkhuis at Utrecht University.

Purdue University, Indiana, atmospheric sciences professor Gabriel Bowen, who was not part of the team, praised the work and said it showed that "there are tipping points in our (climate) system that can throw us to these conditions."

And the new research also gave scientists the idea that a simple fern may have helped pull Earth from a hothouse to an icehouse by sucking up massive amounts of carbon dioxide. Unfortunately, this natural solution to global warming was not exactly quick: it took about a million years.

With all that heat and massive freshwater lakes forming in the Arctic, a fern called Azolla started growing and growing. Azolla, still found in warm regions today, grew so widely that eventually it started sucking up carbon dioxide, Brinkhuis theorized. And that helped put the cool back in the Arctic.

. . .


[Emphasis mine.]

Your comments?


Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
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pleco
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Posted - 05/31/2006 :  13:58:18   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit pleco's Homepage Send pleco a Private Message
If mosquitos get to be as large as a human head, will they:

a) make good target practice

b) taste good with BBQ

c) be harnessed as ceiling fans to combat the 200 degree heat

by Filthy
The neo-con methane machine will soon be running at full fart.
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H. Humbert
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Posted - 05/31/2006 :  14:22:14   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send H. Humbert a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by pleco

If mosquitos get to be as large as a human head, will they:

a) make good target practice

b) taste good with BBQ

c) be harnessed as ceiling fans to combat the 200 degree heat


d) lead to an increase in flame thrower sales


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beskeptigal
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Posted - 06/02/2006 :  01:52:12   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send beskeptigal a Private Message
Fascinating.

I plan to see Al Gore's move, "An Inconvenient Truth" in the next week or so. I'll let you know what it has to say.
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HalfMooner
Dingaling

Philippines
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Posted - 06/02/2006 :  16:46:06   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message
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Originally posted by beskeptigal

Fascinating.

I plan to see Al Gore's move, "An Inconvenient Truth" in the next week or so. I'll let you know what it has to say.

My daughter is so deeply concerned about global warming that she is planning to send tickets to that movie to all her friends and relatives -- and she's got a lot of both!


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