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BigPapaSmurf
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Posted - 06/17/2006 :  11:09:30   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send BigPapaSmurf a Private Message
Duh!, Robert Mugabe and Pat Roberson are tied for Best Person on the Planet.

"...things I have neither seen nor experienced nor heard tell of from anybody else; things, what is more, that do not in fact exist and could not ever exist at all. So my readers must not believe a word I say." -Lucian on his book True History

"...They accept such things on faith alone, without any evidence. So if a fraudulent and cunning person who knows how to take advantage of a situation comes among them, he can make himself rich in a short time." -Lucian critical of early Christians c.166 AD From his book, De Morte Peregrini
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Dr. Mabuse
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Sweden
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Posted - 06/17/2006 :  13:46:26   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Dr. Mabuse an ICQ Message Send Dr. Mabuse a Private Message
Dogs have a higher number of base-pairs in their DNA (than humans), and our domestication and breeding of them (the great variations of breeds), is evidence of their superior adaptability.

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HalfMooner
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Posted - 06/17/2006 :  16:01:18   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Dr. Mabuse

Dogs have a higher number of base-pairs in their DNA (than humans), and our domestication and breeding of them (the great variations of breeds), is evidence of their superior adaptability.

My theory is that dogs have bred us, encouraging our sense of charity and our social skills.


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bort
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Posted - 06/19/2006 :  20:13:58   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit bort's Homepage Send bort a Private Message
My answer would be that all species are advanced to the same degree. After all, didn't we all come from the same ancestor at the same time? If I was forced to name a species, I would say it would be humans. We have more control over our environment and our health than any other. As far as physical attributes, we are faster and stronger than any other species living or dead.

So, I vote for the home team.

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Dr. Mabuse
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Posted - 06/19/2006 :  21:21:41   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Dr. Mabuse an ICQ Message Send Dr. Mabuse a Private Message
Hello Bort, and welcome to Skeptic Friends Network!

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Dude
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Posted - 06/19/2006 :  22:03:47   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Dude a Private Message
bort said:

quote:
As far as physical attributes, we are faster and stronger than any other species living or dead.




You are faster than a cheeta or stronger than an elephant? Wow.


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furshur
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Posted - 06/20/2006 :  05:07:35   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send furshur a Private Message
quote:
You are faster than a cheeta or stronger than an elephant? Wow.

Yes, we are, when we utilize our tools.

If I knew then what I know now then I would know more now than I know.
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Dude
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Posted - 06/20/2006 :  05:53:11   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Dude a Private Message
quote:
Yes, we are, when we utilize our tools.


The comment was with regard to physical attributes.


Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson

"god :: the last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument." - G. Carlin

Hope, n.
The handmaiden of desperation; the opiate of despair; the illegible signpost on the road to perdition. ~~ da filth
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Ricky
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Posted - 06/20/2006 :  06:28:05   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Ricky an AOL message Send Ricky a Private Message
I read it the same way as furshur. Just because we go about getting fast and strong in a different way, doesn't mean it doesn't count.

Why continue? Because we must. Because we have the call. Because it is nobler to fight for rationality without winning than to give up in the face of continued defeats. Because whatever true progress humanity makes is through the rationality of the occasional individual and because any one individual we may win for the cause may do more for humanity than a hundred thousand who hug their superstitions to their breast.
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Hawks
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Posted - 06/20/2006 :  15:27:58   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Hawks's Homepage Send Hawks a Private Message
Humans weren't even the first mammals to go into space. How could we possibly be the most advanced?

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HalfMooner
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Posted - 06/20/2006 :  15:38:09   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Hawks

Humans weren't even the first mammals to go into space. How could we possibly be the most advanced?

Ah, but we were the first to return alive! (Poor Laika.)


Laika, shown here in a harness, died
from stress and overheating several
hours after being launched into space.



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BigPapaSmurf
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Posted - 06/21/2006 :  10:30:47   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send BigPapaSmurf a Private Message
Actually the bacteria in Laika made it back just fine Im sure. Hell Bacteria dont even need a rocket, just wait for a large asteroid to kick up some rocks into orbit... They were spacefarers a billion years before we were.

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"...They accept such things on faith alone, without any evidence. So if a fraudulent and cunning person who knows how to take advantage of a situation comes among them, he can make himself rich in a short time." -Lucian critical of early Christians c.166 AD From his book, De Morte Peregrini
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HalfMooner
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Posted - 06/21/2006 :  14:53:03   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by BigPapaSmurf

Actually the bacteria in Laika made it back just fine Im sure. Hell Bacteria dont even need a rocket, just wait for a large asteroid to kick up some rocks into orbit... They were spacefarers a billion years before we were.

But vanishingly few bacteria are mammals, so they don't count.


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tomk80
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Netherlands
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Posted - 06/22/2006 :  04:10:16   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit tomk80's Homepage Send tomk80 a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Ricky

I read it the same way as furshur. Just because we go about getting fast and strong in a different way, doesn't mean it doesn't count.


This, I think, is the main problem of an unspecified 'advanced'. As is apparant in the thread on christianforums and is already apparant after two pages here, you need a specifier. Are we talking about abilities? Or maybe suvival? Or maybe purely on physical structure? All specifiers will give different answers and even if the answers are the same, the reasoning behind it will be very different.

Tom

`Contrariwise,' continued Tweedledee, `if it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; but as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic.'
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Zebra
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USA
354 Posts

Posted - 06/23/2006 :  00:10:08   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Zebra a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Dr. Mabuse

Dogs have a higher number of base-pairs in their DNA (than humans), and our domestication and breeding of them (the great variations of breeds), is evidence of their superior adaptability.

Yeah, and they can lick their own balls, bonus! But, then, they eat their own vomit, too. So it really does depend on the criteria used. I mean, would that be two pluses, or one plus and one minus?

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