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Kil
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Posted - 08/24/2006 :  08:18:13  Show Profile  Visit Kil's Homepage  Send Kil an AOL message  Send Kil a Yahoo! Message Send Kil a Private Message
Pluto demoted as astronomers downsize solar system

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Prague Leading astronomers declared Thursday that Pluto is no longer a planet under historic new guidelines that downsize the solar system from nine planets to eight.

After a tumultuous week of clashing over the essence of the cosmos, the International Astronomical Union stripped Pluto of the planetary status it has held since its discovery in 1930. The new definition of what is and isn't a planet fills a centuries-old black hole for scientists who have laboured since Copernicus without one.


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pleco
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Posted - 08/24/2006 :  08:23:56   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit pleco's Homepage Send pleco a Private Message
What impact does this have on astrology?

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BigPapaSmurf
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Posted - 08/24/2006 :  10:11:12   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send BigPapaSmurf a Private Message
Its about damn time!

Well the asstrologers will just say the "Official classification" isnt whats important.

"...things I have neither seen nor experienced nor heard tell of from anybody else; things, what is more, that do not in fact exist and could not ever exist at all. So my readers must not believe a word I say." -Lucian on his book True History

"...They accept such things on faith alone, without any evidence. So if a fraudulent and cunning person who knows how to take advantage of a situation comes among them, he can make himself rich in a short time." -Lucian critical of early Christians c.166 AD From his book, De Morte Peregrini
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pleco
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Posted - 08/24/2006 :  10:14:02   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit pleco's Homepage Send pleco a Private Message
But if Pluto wasn't a planet to begin with, astrologers would not have used it, right?

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HalfMooner
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Posted - 08/24/2006 :  10:26:04   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message
I don't think astrology uses any planets except those known to the ancients, excluding Neptune, Pluto, Ceres, and "Xena".


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HalfMooner
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Posted - 08/24/2006 :  10:50:59   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message
What I actually find hilarious in all this is that the arguments over the definition of planets grew so heated in this astronomical convocation. (Now, the surface of the sun, that's something to get heated about!)
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The decision at a conference of 2,500 astronomers from 75 countries was a dramatic shift from just a week ago, when the group's leaders floated a proposal that would have reaffirmed Pluto's planetary status and made planets of its largest moon and two other objects.

That plan proved highly unpopular, splitting astronomers into factions and triggering days of sometimes combative debate that led to Pluto's undoing. In the end, only about 300 astronomers cast ballots.

It's great to at last have planetary definitions that are agreed upon, but the planets, major, minor, and wannabe, couldn't care less. I guess they dropped the word, "pluton" -- this at least may begin the long healing process with the angry geologist lot. But, dammit, they didn't use my word, "percion"!


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Edited by - HalfMooner on 08/24/2006 10:57:41
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pleco
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Posted - 08/24/2006 :  11:02:23   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit pleco's Homepage Send pleco a Private Message
Well, I'm not one to stay up to date on astrology :-) Thanks...

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Chippewa
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Posted - 08/24/2006 :  11:59:25   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Chippewa's Homepage Send Chippewa a Private Message
This leaves us no choice but to close our embassy and embark on the long 12 year journey home. We will miss Earthly delights, such as liquid water and spaghetti, but full planetary status has always been a hallmark of our relationship with Earth.

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McQ
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Posted - 08/24/2006 :  13:55:36   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send McQ a Private Message
Oh this is just great! Now what the hell is My Very Elderly Mother Just Sitting Upon Nine of?


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Edited by - McQ on 08/24/2006 13:56:25
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Ricky
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Posted - 08/24/2006 :  14:03:05   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Ricky an AOL message Send Ricky a Private Message
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Well, I'm not one to stay up to date on astrology


Because oh so much of it has changed in the past 1 or 2 millennia.

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Randy
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Posted - 08/24/2006 :  14:59:22   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Randy a Private Message
To pay homage to the newly demoted Pluto, I think I'll mix a martini, dust off my old 45 rpm copy of the 5th Dimension's "Age of Aquarius", and play it at 33 and 1/3.

"We are all connected; to each other biologically, to the earth chemically, to the rest of the universe atomically."

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pleco
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Posted - 08/24/2006 :  15:10:06   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit pleco's Homepage Send pleco a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Ricky

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Well, I'm not one to stay up to date on astrology


Because oh so much of it has changed in the past 1 or 2 millennia.



It has?

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BigPapaSmurf
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Posted - 08/25/2006 :  06:02:28   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send BigPapaSmurf a Private Message
The American Association of Asstrologers said "it wouldnt effect charting of future, ...pluto is still an effective energy source..."

"...things I have neither seen nor experienced nor heard tell of from anybody else; things, what is more, that do not in fact exist and could not ever exist at all. So my readers must not believe a word I say." -Lucian on his book True History

"...They accept such things on faith alone, without any evidence. So if a fraudulent and cunning person who knows how to take advantage of a situation comes among them, he can make himself rich in a short time." -Lucian critical of early Christians c.166 AD From his book, De Morte Peregrini
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Dr. Mabuse
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Posted - 08/25/2006 :  07:34:42   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Dr. Mabuse an ICQ Message Send Dr. Mabuse a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by BigPapaSmurf

The American Association of Asstrologers said "it wouldnt effect charting of future, ...pluto is still an effective energy source..."


Yeah, right. And the fact that its existance was unknown a hundred years ago, and that didn't affect their readings...

In fact, if Pluto was such a powerful influence, then Pluto's existance and general orbit should have been possible to predict when examining the discrepancy in the failed astrological predictions of the past. That would have been powerful evidence for astrology. Chinese astrologers have had several thousand years to figure that out.

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Cuneiformist
The Imperfectionist

USA
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Posted - 08/25/2006 :  07:38:35   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Cuneiformist a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by McQ

Oh this is just great! Now what the hell is My Very Elderly Mother Just Sitting Upon Nine of?
Well, I always learned it as: My very excellent mother just sent us nine pies. Now perhaps "My very excellent mother just sent us . . . nukes?"
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pleco
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Posted - 08/25/2006 :  07:43:23   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit pleco's Homepage Send pleco a Private Message
My very excellent mother just sent us . . . nanotechnology.


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