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HalfMooner
Dingaling

Philippines
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Posted - 10/11/2006 :  16:05:25   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message
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Originally posted by moakley

And then you have nitwits like Patrick McHenry who would have us shoot the messenger. It actually makes me irritable to watch this outside the context of "The Daily Show".
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Do you have any evidence that Democrats were not involve.
Someone should smack Patrick. He is an embarrassment to the state of North Carolina. But of course NC may deserve him.

Putrid absolutely putrid.

Patrick McHenry's a little shit. Blitzer tore him a new one by insisting on evidence. Rather than making an effective slur, McHenry made himself look like a fool.


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Chippewa
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USA
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Posted - 10/11/2006 :  17:24:47   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Chippewa's Homepage Send Chippewa a Private Message
Blitzer blitzed him.

Wikipedia states:
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"His voting record is considered conservative even by Republican standards; he was one of 20 members who voted against reinstating the House ethics rules in place after they were changed, allegedly in order to protect House Majority Leader Tom DeLay. In 2006, DeLay was quoted by the Washington Times as saying that McHenry could be "the next Tom DeLay." In 2006 he voted against renewal of the Voting Rights Act."


That's like saying MeHenry could be the next dried dog turd.

Wikipedia adds:
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"On October 10, 2006, McHenry was ridiculed by Jon Stewart on The Daily Show for accusing Democrats of deliberately publicising the sex scandal between Mark Foley during an interview with Wolf Blitzer."
Yeah!

This November McHenry faces Democrat Richard Carsner who, judging from Carsner's sparse website, has a lot less money.

Diversity, independence, innovation and imagination are progressive concepts ultimately alien to the conservative mind.

"TAX AND SPEND" IS GOOD! (TAX: Wealthy corporations who won't go poor even after taxes. SPEND: On public works programs, education, the environment, improvements.)
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Tim
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USA
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Posted - 10/11/2006 :  17:33:24   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Tim a Private Message
I haven't been following the news very much lately, but some things haven't changed. The Republican reaction to this little fiasco is typical conservative politics. The idea is to adopt and take credit for any policy, legislation or econmic change that is considered good and blame the liberals for all that blows up in thier collective face.

There's nothing new here, other than the fact that another 'family values' asshole has had his true values exposed. This is not left or right or Democrat or Republican--It's just people.

Incidentally, it is a rarity that I've disagreed with Filthy, but this is the exception. I do believe that this will help keep the 'Family Values' and ethically challenged, far right Christian, moral elitists away from the polls in the numbers they've turned out in in the last few elections.

This Foley thing is one more bit of political disillusionment for these people. The corruption from their party now exceeds that of the Dems thirty years ago, and the Repugs accomplished that mark of infamy in an even shorter period of time, (I hope that I don't have to make a list here!). Plus, there's the war for Middle Eastern natural resources. Even the Fundies now know what the war is really about. They even support the ideology, but can't admit it openly in most cases. The majority of their politicians are losing the swing vote and inflation is on the rise while the separation of class income continues to grow.

They see these things and have no idea where to turn. They don't know about the Constitutional Party which most accurately represents them, or they just don't care. They're like a sports team that's had a couple of years of success and suddenly things begin to fall apart. They could pull it back together but more likely wind up in a blame game to try to ensure their individual furtunes.

Unfortunately, the competition isn't much better off.

In Louisiana we recently had an election, and nobody came. There were important issues on the ballot like coastal restoration and mineral rights revenues, but these things are not issues the political right can grasp very well. There was no issue concerning gay rights or abortion or the so called 'faith-based initiatives.' All we had were real issues that affect us all. So, the keepers of the moral highground hid behind locked doors and excuses.

Live well,
Tim

Oh, and for those that don't know, here's a link to the platform of the Constitutional Party:
http://www.constitutionparty.com/party_platform.php

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HalfMooner
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Philippines
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Posted - 10/11/2006 :  21:02:33   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message
What a bunch of scatterbrained, ham-handed attempts to shoot the messenger, and to try to divert the blame elsewhere, with Rep. Shays now even bringing up an unrelated 1969 event!

The best Republican Rep. Christopher Shays has to say is (hold your breath) "Dennis Hastert didn't kill anybody."

High standards, indeed!:
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HARTFORD, Connecticut (AP) -- Republican Rep. Christopher Shays defended the House speaker's handling of a congressional page scandal, saying no one died like during the 1969 Chappaquiddick incident involving Democratic Sen. Ted Kennedy.

"I know the speaker didn't go over a bridge and leave a young person in the water, and then have a press conference the next day," the embattled Connecticut congressman told The Hartford Courant in remarks published Wednesday.

"Dennis Hastert didn't kill anybody," he added.

Shays' comments recalled the Chappaquiddick incident, when Kennedy's car ran off a Massachusetts bridge, killing his passenger, Mary Jo Kopechne. Kennedy did not immediately report the tragedy, and he later pleaded guilty to leaving the scene of an accident.

. . .





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filthy
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Posted - 10/13/2006 :  03:01:46   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message
It's all a big, fat conspiricy by the gay mafia!
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Immediately after the Mark Foley scandal broke, some anti-Republican gay-rights activists composed a memo containing the names of closeted gay Republican Congressional staffers and sent it to leading Christian-right advocacy groups. The founder and chairman of one of those groups, the Rev. Don Wildmon of the American Family Association, told me he has received that memo, which he referred to simply as "The List." Based on The List's contents, Wildmon is convinced that a secretive gay "clique" boring within the Republican-controlled Congress is responsible for covering up Foley's sexual predation toward teenage male House pages. Moreover, Wildmon calls on the Republican Party leadership to promptly purge the "subversive" gay staffers.


Oh, but how they are a'squealin'. I ain't heard the like since the last time I was down at the abattoir during hog butchering! T'wasn't a pretty sound then, but t'is is now.....





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HalfMooner
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Philippines
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Posted - 10/13/2006 :  05:23:02   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message
That's amazing. The finger-pointing is much crazier than I'd expected when I suggested we watch for this every-man-for-himself effect.

The American Family Association's Rev. Don Wildmon is acting like witch-hunter Senator Joe McCarthy did when the latter would wave blank sheets of paper, while solemnly claiming they held the names of Communists. Except this time the sheets may actually hold names, those of gay Republicans.

Note the attempts to conflate and confuse homosexuals with pedophiles. In panic and hatred, the GOP leaders and the fundies making up the NeoCon coalition are eating themselves alive -- and not in the nice way.

The NeoCon movement, which depended upon an unholy alliance of selected business interests with the Religious Right, is dead. It may not yet recognize its death, but all we are going to see from that moribund carcass is some final galvanic twitching.


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filthy
SFN Die Hard

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Posted - 10/13/2006 :  06:20:58   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message
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Originally posted by HalfMooner

That's amazing. The finger-pointing is much crazier than I'd expected when I suggested we watch for this every-man-for-himself effect.

The American Family Association's Rev. Don Wildmon is acting like witch-hunter Senator Joe McCarthy did when the latter would wave blank sheets of paper, while solemnly claiming they held the names of Communists. Except this time the sheets may actually hold names, those of gay Republicans.

Note the attempts to conflate and confuse homosexuals with pedophiles. In panic and hatred, the GOP leaders and the fundies making up the NeoCon coalition are eating themselves alive -- and not in the nice way.

The NeoCon movement, which depended upon an unholy alliance of selected business interests with the Religious Right, is dead. It may not yet recognize its death, but all we are going to see from that moribund carcass is some final galvanic twitching.



Remarkable, isn't it, 'mooner? Such bile; such vitriol! And from people who claim that God is love -- go figger, eh?

On the other hand, it ain't over 'till it's over, but I think I can hear that delightful fat lady practicing her scales back stage.



Let us hope that she does not break a leg.




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"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres


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filthy
SFN Die Hard

USA
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Posted - 10/13/2006 :  12:16:44   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message
This just in..... It wuz them good-fer-nothin' lib'rals all along!
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Conservative media watchdog Accuracy in Media is alleging that the Foley scandal is not the work of a gay Republican, but rather of a Democratic operative posing as a Republican to undermine the party.

In a piece entitled, "Republican Gays are Closeted Dems," Cliff Kincaid seems to allege that gay Republicans themselves are nothing more than a "Democratic 'dirty trick,'" hoping to use the party to "advance the same homosexual agenda embraced by the Democrats."

"If you are getting the idea that gay Republicans may be closeted Democrats," the column suggests, "then you are beginning to understand how the Mark Foley scandal could have been a Democratic Party dirty trick."

Get's better'n better, doesn't it?




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"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres


"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude

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Starman
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Sweden
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Posted - 10/13/2006 :  12:57:04   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Starman a Private Message
So FauxNews was right to mark() Foley with a 'D'.

I'll guess any disgraced republican is an undercover Democrat.





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HalfMooner
Dingaling

Philippines
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Posted - 10/13/2006 :  15:34:18   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message
This is the kind of hilarious buffoonery one can expect from partisan pundits when there is absolutely nothing one can say to improve the situation, but they are obsessively compelled to express themselves anyway.

Democrats don't have to say much in this situation -- the Republican defense mechanisms are wrecking their party quite well enough. Can anyone spell "autoimmune disease"?




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pleco
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Posted - 10/21/2006 :  10:15:32   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit pleco's Homepage Send pleco a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Starman

So FauxNews was right to mark() Foley with a 'D'.

I'll guess any disgraced republican is an undercover Democrat.



Same mentality which says that an ex-christian was never really a true christian.

BTW, why did Foley sit on the name of the priest for so long??? By doing so, he may have allowed this preist to committ other crimes. Was he afraid that if he acknowledged he was molested, that his republican ilk would no longer want to associate with him?

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filthy
SFN Die Hard

USA
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Posted - 10/21/2006 :  12:04:52   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message
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Originally posted by pleco

quote:
Originally posted by Starman

So FauxNews was right to mark() Foley with a 'D'.

I'll guess any disgraced republican is an undercover Democrat.



Same mentality which says that an ex-christian was never really a true christian.

BTW, why did Foley sit on the name of the priest for so long??? By doing so, he may have allowed this preist to committ other crimes. Was he afraid that if he acknowledged he was molested, that his republican ilk would no longer want to associate with him?

It brings up an interesting question: was it molestation or mutually consensual?

I really don't care what people do to and with each other as long as all parties are in agreement. However, assuming the story is true, if even if it was consensual, Foley was still a minor. Thus, the priest is still guilty of pedophilia.

On a more humerus note, the national media jerk-offs were so excited to have a semi-scapegoat, and a Catholic one at that, that they first IDd the wrong priest!




"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)

"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres


"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude

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