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filthy
SFN Die Hard

USA
14408 Posts

Posted - 10/19/2006 :  06:51:57   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message
I have only pulled one stint of jury duty in my life, and got selected. It was a rape case, and we let the guy off. The "reasonable doubt" was all but a certainty -- it looked all too much like a grudge charge -- and the whole thing, from, "All rise!" to the final gavel whack, took only 2 days.

I throughly dislike having that sort of responsibility. Fortunately, should I get called again, I can legitimately beg off due to health. But would I? After all, it is a citizen's duty...... I don't know if I would or not.






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and Crypto-Communist!

Edited by - filthy on 10/19/2006 06:53:20
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pleco
SFN Addict

USA
2998 Posts

Posted - 10/19/2006 :  07:02:25   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit pleco's Homepage Send pleco a Private Message
I was called and selected once. It was a theft case. The accused stole from a job site of a contracter that he felt had done him wrong on a house they had built for him. The accused was also slightly mentally retarded. I was the foreman of the jury.

Though we had sympathy for the accused, because the contractor did in fact take advantage of him, he still committed the crime. We were given options of first, second, and third degree theft. We asked what the penalites were, but were not told. We did not want to give this man jail time. So we chose second degree theft.

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Dave W.
Info Junkie

USA
26020 Posts

Posted - 10/19/2006 :  07:24:04   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message
Want to avoid jury duty? Become as famous as James Randi:
I had a much-better-informed judge, on one of my jury-duty calls here in Broward County, Florida. Spotting me in the assembled pool awaiting the voir-dire process, he called the attention of both lawyers to my presence, and then reminded them that I was not the sort of person likely to make anything but a decision based on the presented facts. He asked them whether it was correct that they preferred jurors who could be swayed by rhetoric; both lawyers mumbled, hummed and hawed for a moment, and were – I felt – somewhat relieved when the magistrate announced that I was dismissed from jury duty on this occasion.

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Kil
Evil Skeptic

USA
13476 Posts

Posted - 10/19/2006 :  08:24:06   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Kil's Homepage  Send Kil an AOL message  Send Kil a Yahoo! Message Send Kil a Private Message
quote:
Original_Intent:
Done. I have actually been meaning too... Next time I am sending a check though...... I hate Paypal.....


I saw that this morning. Thanks Joe! It means a lot to me.

Hmmmm… Looks like guilt may be an affective tool.

On a side note, a guy I met in the jury pool, whose blog I will probably choose for my evil pick this week, donated too. I actually met a fellow skeptic waiting to be called. Our conversation really made the day go much faster. In all of my time being an active skeptic that has never happened before. We are out there folks, even if we don't always recognize each other.

Uncertainty may make you uncomfortable. Certainty makes you ridiculous.

Why not question something for a change?

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Paulos23
Skeptic Friend

USA
446 Posts

Posted - 10/19/2006 :  10:06:42   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Paulos23's Homepage Send Paulos23 a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Ricky

Just answer a question with "I believe men are guilty before proven innocent." That should get you out of there in no time.

Or you could just tell them you are a psychic and already know (s)he's guilty.



My granmother pulled something like that at the last jurry duty she pulled. It was a robbery case and she said straight out "He wouldn't be here if he hadn't done something.". Both lawers tried to explain the whole innocent before guilty concept to her, but she was having none of it.

The policemen that escorted her out gave her the tumbs up.

You can go wrong by being too skeptical as readily as by being too trusting. -- Robert A. Heinlein

Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored. -- Aldous Huxley
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beskeptigal
SFN Die Hard

USA
3834 Posts

Posted - 10/19/2006 :  11:12:01   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send beskeptigal a Private Message
I've been called up once and was the first to be dismissed as soon as I said I was a nurse. The defense didn't want a nurse on a domestic abuse case. Gee, I couldn't imagine why not?
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Dr. Mabuse
Septic Fiend

Sweden
9687 Posts

Posted - 10/19/2006 :  11:12:22   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Dr. Mabuse an ICQ Message Send Dr. Mabuse a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Dave W.

Want to avoid jury duty? Become as famous as James Randi:
I had a much-better-informed judge, on one of my jury-duty calls here in Broward County, Florida. Spotting me in the assembled pool awaiting the voir-dire process, he called the attention of both lawyers to my presence, and then reminded them that I was not the sort of person likely to make anything but a decision based on the presented facts. He asked them whether it was correct that they preferred jurors who could be swayed by rhetoric; both lawyers mumbled, hummed and hawed for a moment, and were – I felt – somewhat relieved when the magistrate announced that I was dismissed from jury duty on this occasion.



Holy shit!
If I ever put my personal distrust of the US government aside, a decide to visit USA, please remind my to keep myself squeeky clean and out of mischief.

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BigPapaSmurf
SFN Die Hard

3192 Posts

Posted - 10/19/2006 :  11:50:01   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send BigPapaSmurf a Private Message
Dont worry, you dont have to be a mischief maker anymore, as of today everybody including law abiding Americans are now subject to being labeled an enemy combatant and disappeared forever!

quote:
On a side note, a guy I met in the jury pool, whose blog I will probably choose for my evil pick this week, donated too. I actually met a fellow skeptic waiting to be called. Our conversation really made the day go much faster. In all of my time being an active skeptic that has never happened before. We are out there folks, even if we don't always recognize each other.


The thiests have come up with a solution to this problem, armbands with the atomic nucleus icon for us!

"...things I have neither seen nor experienced nor heard tell of from anybody else; things, what is more, that do not in fact exist and could not ever exist at all. So my readers must not believe a word I say." -Lucian on his book True History

"...They accept such things on faith alone, without any evidence. So if a fraudulent and cunning person who knows how to take advantage of a situation comes among them, he can make himself rich in a short time." -Lucian critical of early Christians c.166 AD From his book, De Morte Peregrini
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Original_Intent
SFN Regular

USA
609 Posts

Posted - 10/19/2006 :  14:14:18   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Original_Intent a Private Message
Want out quick.... Talk about jury nullification....
Peace
Joe
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