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Dave W.
Info Junkie
USA
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 Posted - 11/21/2006 : 19:25:10
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Read some of the latest developments at Jim Lippard's Blog. I'm not fully "up" on the whole story, but obviously there's massive trouble in paradise, and it's the damn Americans causing it.
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Ricky
SFN Die Hard
USA
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Starman
SFN Regular
Sweden
1613 Posts |
Posted - 11/22/2006 : 01:42:59 [Permalink]
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it shows that Ken Ham's Answers in Genesis is as sleazy in its business dealings as it is in its misrepresentations of science.
So a liar is a liar is a liar. No surprise there. |
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
USA
14408 Posts |
Posted - 11/22/2006 : 03:21:04 [Permalink]
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I've been casually keeping track of this for some time. Ham gave the Ozzies a royal screwing without even the courtesy of a reach-around.
From John Stear's NAiG site:
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What's in a name?
John Stear, March 2006 (revised May 2006)
The Australian ministry of Answers in Genesis (AiG) has changed its name to Creation Ministries International (CMI) and has created a new web site, Creation On The Web. Before commenting further, a brief history of AiG might be helpful.
The first creationist organisation in Australia was begun in 1977 using the name Creation Science Association (CSA). In 1979/80 CSA combined with a Queensland group and became Creation Science Foundation Ltd (CSF). In 1987 Ken Ham was seconded by CSF to work with an American organisation Institute for Creation Research (ICR). In 1996 CSF assisted Ken Ham to form an independent ministry in the US which was initially called Creation Science Ministries but, on 10 November 1997, along with CSF, it changed its name to Answers in Genesis (AiG).
AiG, which incorporated the Australian, UK and New Zealand ministries, enjoyed an harmonious relationship with its Australian counterpart. Indeed, according to CMI, the US arm of AiG relied heavily on the Australian creationists for much of its content. Now, a little over eight years later, the Australian ministry of Answers in Genesis (AiG) has changed its name to Creation Ministries International (CMI). AiG is now AiG-USA with affiliations only with AiG-UK.
While on the surface this might appear to be a simple strategic move, when one looks closely at the way CMI has reacted it becomes apparent there is more to it than meets the eye. On their new web site (scroll down to "Brief History") CMI states -
And so forth.
Ham is Hovind without the hysteria; Baugh with a bigger budget. In short, a cheap grifter writ large. I look forward to visiting his new museum, that was helpfully financed with so many Australian dollars. I'm sure that, while entertaining, it will be, like Creationism itself, anything but scientifically enlightening.
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
and Crypto-Communist! 
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Dr. Mabuse
Septic Fiend
Sweden
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Posted - 11/22/2006 : 13:24:26 [Permalink]
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| Glad to see you posting again, Filthy. Your un-announced hiatus gave me a scare. |
Dr. Mabuse - "When the going gets tough, the tough get Duct-tape..."
Dr. Mabuse whisper.mp3
"Equivocation is not just a job, for a creationist it's a way of life..." Dr. Mabuse
Support American Troops in Iraq:
Send them unarmed civilians for target practice..
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
USA
14408 Posts |
Posted - 11/22/2006 : 14:02:37 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dr. Mabuse
Glad to see you posting again, Filthy. Your un-announced hiatus gave me a scare.
Bad luck and old injuries, Doc. And then, whilst dealing with all that, I got home top discover that my phone line had gone down for no apparent reason -- did I ever mention how much I hate telephones and the companies owning the lines? Took two days to get them started on straightening that out. I'm on a temporary line now, the permanent to be put in in the next couple of weeks.
The next hiatus might be because I've shot a phone company executive, sown his lands with salt, sold his wretched and accursed family into slavery, and used the proceeds of that sale to pay my phone bill.
But until then.... 
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
and Crypto-Communist!
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
15831 Posts |
Posted - 11/22/2006 : 14:34:39 [Permalink]
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Welcome back, Fil! I, too, was beginning to worry about you.
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“Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
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