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Kil
Evil Skeptic

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Posted - 01/23/2007 :  10:38:37  Show Profile  Visit Kil's Homepage  Send Kil an AOL message  Send Kil a Yahoo! Message Send Kil a Private Message
This was posted by HiEv, a moderator over on the Skepticality forum.

HIV deniers want human rights hero jailed

quote:
HiEv:
Zackie Achmat, a South African activist, founder and chairman of Treatment Action Campaign (TAC; a South African AIDS activism group), winner of the 2001 Desmond Tutu Leadership Award, the 2003 Nelson Mandela Award for Health and Human Rights, and the 2003 Jonathan Mann Award for Global Health and Human Rights, is now being attacked by Matthias Rath, a German vitamin advocate, and Anthony Brink, creator of Treatment Information Group, an anti-HIV drug and HIV denial group, for successfully getting South African AIDS victims access to anti-HIV drugs. Yes, that's right, they want Achmat locked up for making it possible for AIDS victims to receive the drugs that help them fight the virus. Ben Goldacre's "Bad Science" column has the details:


I didn't copy all of his links and there is way more than this quote, so please follow the above link to the thread for the rest of the story.

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Why not question something for a change?

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the_ignored
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Posted - 01/23/2007 :  11:00:31   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send the_ignored a Private Message
Hey, guess what I found!

http://www.aras.ab.ca/aidsquotes.htm

“If you were to go back and audit the evidence without a prejudice in favor of the reigning theory, the conclusion would be that [HIV is] harmless. A correlation does not prove causation. People who are very sick have lots of infections and foreign proteins in their blood. They may test positive for lots of things, but that doesn't mean that those things are causing their condition.”

Aids, a Second Opinion

— Phillip Johnson, Senior Professor of Law, University of California at Berkeley


At the bottom is a link to the group mentioned in the OP, as well as to the website Johnson's affiliated with: virusmyth.net.




So, they're going after the people who make anti-aids drugs accessible? Well, maybe that shows the dangers of the thinking of people like these, eh?

>From: enuffenuff@fastmail.fm
(excerpt follows):
> I'm looking to teach these two bastards a lesson they'll never forget.
> Personal visit by mates of mine. No violence, just a wee little chat.
>
> **** has also committed more crimes than you can count with his
> incitement of hatred against a religion. That law came in about 2007
> much to ****'s ignorance. That is fact and his writing will become well
> know as well as him becoming a publicly known icon of hatred.
>
> Good luck with that fuckwit. And Reynold, fucking run, and don't stop.
> Disappear would be best as it was you who dared to attack me on my
> illness knowing nothing of the cause. You disgust me and you are top of
> the list boy. Again, no violence. Just regular reminders of who's there
> and visits to see you are behaving. Nothing scary in reality. But I'd
> still disappear if I was you.

What brought that on? this. Original posting here.

Another example of this guy's lunacy here.
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Dave W.
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USA
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Posted - 01/23/2007 :  11:04:42   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by the_ignored

Phillip Johnson...
He's not the only Discovery Institute fellow and champion of Intelligent Design who is an HIV/AIDS denier, either.

- Dave W. (Private Msg, EMail)
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HalfMooner
Dingaling

Philippines
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Posted - 01/23/2007 :  11:36:34   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message
Phillip E. f---ing Johnson, the bastard. You, sir, shall be Mooned.


Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
Here's a link to Moonscape News, and one to its Archive.
Edited by - HalfMooner on 01/23/2007 11:55:46
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Kil
Evil Skeptic

USA
13457 Posts

Posted - 01/23/2007 :  12:00:44   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Kil's Homepage  Send Kil an AOL message  Send Kil a Yahoo! Message Send Kil a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by HalfMooner

Phillip E. f---ing Johnson, the bastard. You, sir, shall be Mooned.



Sigh...



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Why not question something for a change?

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HalfMooner
Dingaling

Philippines
15831 Posts

Posted - 01/23/2007 :  12:54:37   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message
Hey, at least this time I went back and inserted some dashes.


Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
Here's a link to Moonscape News, and one to its Archive.
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