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JohnOAS
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Australia
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Posted - 02/20/2007 :  15:00:39   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit JohnOAS's Homepage Send JohnOAS a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Neurosis

quote:
Originally posted by JohnOAS

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The Sasquatch seem willing to announce their presence in whatever way is possible -- except for the obvious one of making an outright appearance.

That web site appears to be sane in every way possible, except for outright sanity.


What?



I was attempting to point out the absurdness of the "whatever was is possible" vs "except..." dichotomy. A structural parody, as it were. Fortunately for all, I don't make my living this way.


John's just this guy, you know.
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Chippewa
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USA
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Posted - 02/20/2007 :  17:58:13   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Chippewa's Homepage Send Chippewa a Private Message
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Originally posted by filthy

...Sooo, what we have here is, essentally, a spoof. A complicated and rather soggy spoof, but a spoof none the less. I found it highly enjoyable.

More Spoof: Yes, those polished shells are might pretty. But I'd hate to think what would happen if this fell into their hands!
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H. Humbert
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Posted - 02/20/2007 :  18:05:36   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send H. Humbert a Private Message
Why is it whenever an "advanced" life form--an alien, bigfoot, an angel, etc.--appears with a message for all mankind, they always sound like a nagging mother? "Stop fighting. Clean up your mess. Eat your vegetables."

Just once I'd like to hear about an advanced being who truly has something advanced to say. "These are the plans to build an anti-gravity device and I threw in a cold fusion prototype for shits and giggles."


"A man is his own easiest dupe, for what he wishes to be true he generally believes to be true." --Demosthenes

"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself - and you are the easiest person to fool." --Richard P. Feynman

"Face facts with dignity." --found inside a fortune cookie
Edited by - H. Humbert on 02/21/2007 15:01:43
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Dude
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Posted - 02/20/2007 :  23:43:11   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Dude a Private Message
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Just once I'd like to hear about an advanced being who truly has something advanced to say. "These are the plans to build an anti-gravity device and I threw in a cold fusion prototype for shits and giggles."



Or:

Here are detailed instructions for a super-hard lightweight composite construction material that can be manufactured very inexpensively and used for everything from building skyscrapers to spaceships, and just for shits and giggles lets throw in plans for suitcase sized fusion generators and a Star-Trek style warp drive!

Err.... haven't we heard some whacko here saying something like that? Or was he selling a flying car? hehe


Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson

"god :: the last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument." - G. Carlin

Hope, n.
The handmaiden of desperation; the opiate of despair; the illegible signpost on the road to perdition. ~~ da filth
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Siberia
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Posted - 02/21/2007 :  06:21:22   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Siberia's Homepage  Send Siberia an AOL message  Send Siberia a Yahoo! Message Send Siberia a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by H. Humbert

Why is it whenever an "advanced" life form--an alien, bigfoot, an angel, etc.--apears with a message for all mankind, they always sound like a nagging mother? "Stop fighting. Clean up your mess. Eat your vegetables."

Just once I'd like to hear about an advanced being who truly has something advanced to say. "These are the plans to build an anti-gravity device and I threw in a cold fusion prototype for shits and giggles."




Maybe they only send the New Agey types to annoy us... or the stoners.

"Why are you afraid of something you're not even sure exists?"
- The Kovenant, Via Negativa

"People who don't like their beliefs being laughed at shouldn't have such funny beliefs."
-- unknown
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HalfMooner
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Posted - 02/21/2007 :  11:02:53   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by H. Humbert

Why is it whenever an "advanced" life form--an alien, bigfoot, an angel, etc.--apears with a message for all mankind, they always sound like a nagging mother? "Stop fighting. Clean up your mess. Eat your vegetables."

Just once I'd like to hear about an advanced being who truly has something advanced to say. "These are the plans to build an anti-gravity device and I threw in a cold fusion prototype for shits and giggles."



Or a hostile intelligent race broadcasting simple instructions that any kid could use to make a litre-sized H-bomb that uses tap water. That ought to get rid of us real fast.




Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
Here's a link to Moonscape News, and one to its Archive.
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Neurosis
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Posted - 02/21/2007 :  13:15:29   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Neurosis an AOL message Send Neurosis a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by HalfMooner

quote:
Originally posted by H. Humbert

Why is it whenever an "advanced" life form--an alien, bigfoot, an angel, etc.--apears with a message for all mankind, they always sound like a nagging mother? "Stop fighting. Clean up your mess. Eat your vegetables."

Just once I'd like to hear about an advanced being who truly has something advanced to say. "These are the plans to build an anti-gravity device and I threw in a cold fusion prototype for shits and giggles."



Or a hostile intelligent race broadcasting simple instructions that any kid could use to make a litre-sized H-bomb that uses tap water. That ought to get rid of us real fast.



Well, I can see that being turned into a good counter argument. They don't tell us because we would kill each other with the technology. If I were an advanced being I wouldn't say jack to a less advanced insignificant race. Think about it. Suppose we were to find a primitive Earth out there with neanderthals on it, would we try and teach them nuclear power?

The interesting thing to me is that no matter how advanced these groups are, humans are always the central race to the whole "plan of the universe".

Facts! Pssh, you can prove anything even remotely true with facts.
- Homer Simpson

[God] is an infinite nothing from nowhere with less power over our universe than the secretary of agriculture.
- Prof. Frink

Lisa: Yes, but wouldn't you rather know the truth than to delude yourself for happiness?
Marge: Well... um.... [goes outside to jump on tampoline with Homer.]
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H. Humbert
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Posted - 02/21/2007 :  15:01:02   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send H. Humbert a Private Message
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Originally posted by Neurosis
Think about it. Suppose we were to find a primitive Earth out there with neanderthals on it, would we try and teach them nuclear power?

No, but we might give them Zippos. You think we'd get some sort of advanced technology from any advanced race which wanted to impress us enough to heed their message. And it doesn't have to be a weapon. It could be a new kind of lightbulb or musical instrument. Something.


"A man is his own easiest dupe, for what he wishes to be true he generally believes to be true." --Demosthenes

"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself - and you are the easiest person to fool." --Richard P. Feynman

"Face facts with dignity." --found inside a fortune cookie
Edited by - H. Humbert on 02/21/2007 15:06:24
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Neurosis
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Posted - 02/21/2007 :  15:39:03   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Neurosis an AOL message Send Neurosis a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by H. Humbert

quote:
Originally posted by Neurosis
Think about it. Suppose we were to find a primitive Earth out there with neanderthals on it, would we try and teach them nuclear power?

No, but we might give them Zippos. You think we'd get some sort of advanced technology from any advanced race which wanted to impress us enough to heed their message. And it doesn't have to be a weapon. It could be a new kind of lightbulb or musical instrument. Something.




True. If we wanted to impress them. But my point is that we wouldn't. I don't think we would give them zippos. I think we might try and convince them we are gods and exploit them. Either the superbeings want to assist us, oppress us, or don't care about us. With no evidence of the former we can assume the later, or their non-existence which is equal in outcome (and the logical choice).

It is just another of the things that makes no sense to me. People wish to feel special so they imagine a great being has chosen them to spread a message or perform a task. There is no evidence or presence of any scenario which would naturally follow for that goal, but they believe anyway. Ninety percent of the time the reasoning is "I just don't want to believe that there isn't something more out there". It boggles me.

Facts! Pssh, you can prove anything even remotely true with facts.
- Homer Simpson

[God] is an infinite nothing from nowhere with less power over our universe than the secretary of agriculture.
- Prof. Frink

Lisa: Yes, but wouldn't you rather know the truth than to delude yourself for happiness?
Marge: Well... um.... [goes outside to jump on tampoline with Homer.]
Edited by - Neurosis on 02/21/2007 15:42:26
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Ghost_Skeptic
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Posted - 02/21/2007 :  23:55:17   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Ghost_Skeptic a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Siberia

quote:
Originally posted by H. Humbert

Why is it whenever an "advanced" life form--an alien, bigfoot, an angel, etc.--apears with a message for all mankind, they always sound like a nagging mother? "Stop fighting. Clean up your mess. Eat your vegetables."

Just once I'd like to hear about an advanced being who truly has something advanced to say. "These are the plans to build an anti-gravity device and I threw in a cold fusion prototype for shits and giggles."




Maybe they only send the New Agey types to annoy us... or the stoners.



It's obvious - they just come here for "back to nature" vacations on a primitive planet. This explains why none of them end up as road kill. Just as we are not supposed to interfere in any way with wildlife in a national park, they are not supposed to make contact with us in any way. However, there are always a few who cannot resist the temptation to scare the bejeesus out of some human and the "New Agey types" cannot help trying to show us the error of our ways.

"You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink. / You can send a kid to college but you can't make him think." - B.B. King

History is made by stupid people - The Arrogant Worms

"The greater the ignorance the greater the dogmatism." - William Osler

"Religion is the natural home of the psychopath" - Pat Condell

"The day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the supreme being as his father in the womb of a virgin, will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter" - Thomas Jefferson
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Siberia
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Posted - 02/22/2007 :  05:16:05   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Siberia's Homepage  Send Siberia an AOL message  Send Siberia a Yahoo! Message Send Siberia a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Ghost_Skeptic

quote:
Originally posted by Siberia

quote:
Originally posted by H. Humbert

Why is it whenever an "advanced" life form--an alien, bigfoot, an angel, etc.--apears with a message for all mankind, they always sound like a nagging mother? "Stop fighting. Clean up your mess. Eat your vegetables."

Just once I'd like to hear about an advanced being who truly has something advanced to say. "These are the plans to build an anti-gravity device and I threw in a cold fusion prototype for shits and giggles."




Maybe they only send the New Agey types to annoy us... or the stoners.



It's obvious - they just come here for "back to nature" vacations on a primitive planet. This explains why none of them end up as road kill. Just as we are not supposed to interfere in any way with wildlife in a national park, they are not supposed to make contact with us in any way. However, there are always a few who cannot resist the temptation to scare the bejeesus out of some human and the "New Agey types" cannot help trying to show us the error of our ways.


I bet people don't like the idea of being the galactic safari... but hey, sounds cool to me.

"Why are you afraid of something you're not even sure exists?"
- The Kovenant, Via Negativa

"People who don't like their beliefs being laughed at shouldn't have such funny beliefs."
-- unknown
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filthy
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Posted - 02/22/2007 :  06:17:06   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message
This nonsense has traveled all over the web. I've found it at Randi's and a couple of other blogs, and, according to a friend, it's hit some newspapers.

Ya gotta love it!




"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)

"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres


"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude

Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,

and Crypto-Communist!

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Neurosis
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Posted - 02/22/2007 :  11:40:33   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Neurosis an AOL message Send Neurosis a Private Message
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Sib:

I bet people don't like the idea of being the galactic safari... but hey, sounds cool to me.

Some people don't like the idea of being the most advanced species that evolved over time. Some people can't handle not being the most specialist things in the uni-verse. So you can be assused that bet will pay off.

Facts! Pssh, you can prove anything even remotely true with facts.
- Homer Simpson

[God] is an infinite nothing from nowhere with less power over our universe than the secretary of agriculture.
- Prof. Frink

Lisa: Yes, but wouldn't you rather know the truth than to delude yourself for happiness?
Marge: Well... um.... [goes outside to jump on tampoline with Homer.]
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