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filthy
SFN Die Hard
USA
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 Posted - 02/14/2002 : 21:19:25 [Permalink]
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"Symbol for Agnosticism:An image of someone shrugging with open palms out"
I thought that was the 'Enron Salute'.
But, we'll take it. Then again, why should we?
(hehehe) Edit: Thought of a better word.
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A hundred years before the advent of Hitler, the German-Jewish poet, Heinrich Heine, had declared: "Wherever books are burned, human beings are destined to be burned too."
Edited by - filthy on 02/15/2002 03:03:21 |
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Chippewa
SFN Regular
USA
1496 Posts |
Posted - 02/14/2002 : 21:56:30 [Permalink]
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Symbol for Agnosticism? How about this?
http://www.fantafilm.it/Attori/ABBOTT.JPG
Two faces looking inquisitively for knowledge with an open mind. Uh...yup.
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
USA
14408 Posts |
Posted - 02/14/2002 : 22:05:38 [Permalink]
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Bud and Lou were and still are the best there ever was!
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A hundred years before the advent of Hitler, the German-Jewish poet, Heinrich Heine, had declared: "Wherever books are burned, human beings are destined to be burned too."
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Snake
SFN Addict
USA
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Posted - 02/15/2002 : 01:48:16 [Permalink]
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Sorry, but it looks like something that would be passed out at a "Trekie" convention. The problem with the symbol is that too much thinking went into it. Something that came out of a corporate marketing department or a Hollywood add agency.  .
(:raig
HEY! Companies pay big bucks to other companies to design logos like that.
And You are all wrong.
There has been a symbol. Years ago when I was going to local meetings of AA, someone came up with one. I have a button with it. It is a simple one, I never cared for it either but it's better then that wimpy gold thing that looks like a girl scout would wear.
The one I have is black with an 'A' in the center, as I recall, and two wavey parallel lines across it or near it or something. I think it also says 'Atheism, the wave of the future', if it doesn't, that's what it was supposed to mean.
I'll look for it and try to scan it for you, if you like. LOL, I hope I remembered it correctly or won't I be embarrassed!
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Earth is the insane asylum for the universe.
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Donnie B.
Skeptic Friend
417 Posts |
Posted - 02/15/2002 : 12:37:54 [Permalink]
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Craig, we already have an anthem, 'Dear God' by XTC. 
We need a mascot though.
Thought constitutes the greatness of man -Pascal
I thought it was Janis' "Oh Lord, Won't You Buy Me A Mercedes Benz?"
-- Donnie B.
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Xev
Skeptic Friend
USA
329 Posts |
Posted - 02/16/2002 : 11:07:31 [Permalink]
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Donnie: Could be, but I like the beat on 'Dear God'
Of course, 'Sympathy for the Devil' is a great song, but then again, we do not believe in devils either.
quote:
Dear God,
Hope you got the letter,
And I pray, you can make it better down here.
We all need a big reduction in the price of beer.
And all those people that you made in your image,
See them starving in the street,
‘Cause they can't get enough to eat
from God,
I can't believe in you.
Dear God,
Sorry to disturb you but
I feel that I should be heard loud and clear.
We all need a big reduction in the amount of tears.
And all those people that you made in your image,
See them fighting in the street,
‘Cause they can't make opinions meet
About God,
I can't believe in you.
Chorus
Did you make disease
And the diamond blue?
Did you make mankind
After we made you?
And the Devil too?
Dear God,
Don't know if you noticed but
Your names on a lot of quotes in this book.
Us crazy humans wrote it,
You should take a look.
And all those people that you made in your image,
Still believe that that junk is true.
Well I know it ain't and so do You.
Dear God,
I can't believe in…
I don't believe in…
I won't believe in Heaven and Hell,
No saints, no sinners,
No Devil as well.
No pearly gates, no thorny crown.
You're always letting us humans down.
The wars you bring, the babes you've drowned.
And it's the same the whole world ‘round.
The hurt I see helps you compound,
The father, son and Holy Ghost,
Is just somebody's unholy hoax.
If you're still up there, you'd perceive
That my heart's here upon my sleeve.
If there's one thing I can't believe in...
It's you,
Dear God.
Like it? Great instrumentation and vocals too.
Of course, we could make our own:
*Xev steps onto the stage, tight black shirt with a Darwinfish embroidered in sequins and torn jeans*
*She slings her electric guitar across a shoulder, picks up the mike and begins to sing*
This one is for all you logicians in the audience
*Logicians scream and wave lighters in the air*
There is just as much evidence against the existance of God as for
Oh, that you won't deny, will you?
Oh that you can't deny, can you?
*Chorus as Xev goes into guitar solo*
Occam's razor, wooo woo
Occam's razor, woo woo woo
Occam's razor is a valid logical tool
*Xev begins singing again*
Occam's razor, it states
'Entities must not be multiplied unnecessarily'
Oh you know it is true
Occam's razor is a valid logical tool
*Percussion starts with a solo as Xev gyrates*
*Xev begins singing again*
God is an entity
Or such is postulated by you
Thiests but
Occam's razor is a valid logical tool
*Chorus as Xev prances around the stage*
Occam's razor, Occam's razor, wooo woo
Occam's razor and logic
Screw Pascal's wager, Occam's razor
Occam's razor, wooo woo
*Back to Xev*
Now I'll tell you somthing, and I'll tell you true
Believing in God is an unnecessary multiplying of entities
No objections there, oh noo
*Xev pauses singing to yell:*
With me so far, aren't youu?
*Audience screams assent*
*Back to singing*
Therefore, believing in God is irrational.
*Solo member of the chorus, a nice topless, attractive man (GET ON WITH IT!)in jeans*
How can you call me names?
I think you just lack faith
You really should try to pray
*Cut back to Xev*
Now don't take it personal babe
You have conceded the necessity of faith
Besides, and I this I will not deny
Irrational does not mean inferior or wrong.
*Xev and solo chorus member sing a duet*
Well I suppose we will have to agree
To disagree
Because you have failed to convince me
*Man*
That reason is better than faith
*Xev*
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@tomic
Administrator
USA
4607 Posts |
Posted - 02/16/2002 : 11:44:13 [Permalink]
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I have compiled a bunch of atheiestic sort of songs. Maybe I will post a few for a "Daily Download" or something. There are a lot more songs out there than you might expect.
@tomic
Gravity, not just a good idea...it's the law! |
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@tomic
Administrator
USA
4607 Posts |
Posted - 02/16/2002 : 12:20:43 [Permalink]
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Well, I gota all motivated and ripped an MP3 for ya'll to hear. It's a bit of Funk metal from a band called Psychefunkapus and the song is called Jesus Crispies approximately 2.3 megs
Just right click and "Save target as..."
@tomic
Gravity, not just a good idea...it's the law! |
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Xev
Skeptic Friend
USA
329 Posts |
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Donnie B.
Skeptic Friend
417 Posts |
Posted - 02/16/2002 : 15:02:52 [Permalink]
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Another candidate would surely be We Won't Get Fooled Again by the mighty Who.
Yyyyeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh!!!
Or how about Imagine, which is one of the most clearly atheistic (even anti-theistic) songs ever to make it to commercial radio?
-- Donnie B.
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Marc_a_b
Skeptic Friend
USA
142 Posts |
Posted - 02/16/2002 : 15:22:14 [Permalink]
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Don't know any Atheist songs, but I've downloaded a few good ones on Scientology.  Such classics as 'Ron the con', 'Heber is hiding', and 'LRH is dead, time to blow'.
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VVolfe347
New Member
Canada
22 Posts |
Posted - 02/24/2002 : 21:46:56 [Permalink]
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you KNOW what's going to happen next, don't 'cha. Atheists will agree on a symbol, followed by an Atheist Flag, a national anthem, a pledge of allegiance, Constitution, and a seat in the U.N. General Assembly.
(:raig
COOOOOOLLLLLL....... LMAO
I think an "X" over an "A" would be simple and easy to understand.
Dan Foscarini
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VVolfe347
New Member
Canada
22 Posts |
Posted - 02/24/2002 : 21:53:37 [Permalink]
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Or how about Imagine, which is one of the most clearly atheistic (even anti-theistic) songs ever to make it to commercial radio?
-- Donnie B.
Yes, Imagine fits the mold. But for a masscot.... the babal fish!
Dan Foscarini
"The Blind don't lead the blind, People walk around with thier eyes closed" |
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Mr. Spock
Skeptic Friend
USA
99 Posts |
Posted - 03/16/2002 : 18:20:05 [Permalink]
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Of course the atheist symbol is silly. All symbols (or bumper sticker philoshopies) are stupid insofar as one can never give an idea justice with a simple symbol or witty aphorism.
However, I wear my atheist pendant often, even though I usually regard myself as an agnostic, I find that the "A" is so flexible, I can be creative with it. What's great about it is that no one (except for a few fundamentalists, from whom you usually receive means scowls or Chick leaflets) knows what the hell it means.  Thus, when asked "what's that mean," I can have fun with people. Some replys might be:
1) I'm a complete Asshole, and so they made me wear this.
2) I'm sorry, but I'm very Annoying.
3) I'm a big Asimov fan.
4) I'm an Alien.
As you see, if you liberate the atheist symbol from its literal meaning, it can provide hours of amusement.
"Great things are not accomplished by those who yeild to trends and fads and popular opinion." --Charles Kuralt |
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Bradley
Skeptic Friend
USA
147 Posts |
Posted - 03/18/2002 : 11:21:01 [Permalink]
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I display the American Atheist logo all the time, and the reactions I have gotten have been overwhelmingly positive. Not only do I have the wind breaker, pendant, lapel pin, car window decal, and visor cap, but also two other different style caps with the cloth emblem sewn on. This cloth emblem, in addition to the logo, bears the words "freedom of religion - American Atheists." Only the most naive religionists (the type that invoke Pascal's wager -  ) have ever attempted to convert me.
"Too much doubt is better than too much credulity."
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