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Snake
SFN Addict

USA
2511 Posts

Posted - 03/13/2002 :  00:00:22   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Snake's Homepage  Send Snake an ICQ Message  Send Snake a Yahoo! Message Send Snake a Private Message
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I think a JR forum might have some merit, but frankly there are things that are above my head and I either stay out of them or do some research before I ask questions.

I don't think younger people necessarily want people talking down to them either. If people have been nasty to her, maybe we should look at how we treat each other and not just speak kindly to people because they're a certain age.

I guess I'd have to ask what "only 15" means. How specifically should we treat her differently?


That's exactly what I would have said if I could speak better English. Thanks Gorgo.
At 15 I was interested in philosophy and the world and I didn't have many friends who were my peer age group. I knew someone a few years ago who was less than 9 years old (I was, let's just say well into adulthood) who talked above my head about the universe, Carl Sagan and all . So what does age have to do with anything, is right.

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Snake
SFN Addict

USA
2511 Posts

Posted - 03/13/2002 :  00:18:16   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Snake's Homepage  Send Snake an ICQ Message  Send Snake a Yahoo! Message Send Snake a Private Message
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Imagine speaking to a person face to face, whether most of us realize or not we moderate the way we speak to people who are younger and honestly curious about an issue rather than a bit older and already have a fully formed opinion regarding an issue. I'm not saying a 15yo can't have formed opinions and informed opinions but not all aspects of her understanding and opinion formation are fully developed. At a younger age, sometimes more explaination is required than with someone you expect to be at a 'certain level' with regard to concepts because of their age.


I hope this is making some sense, simply because I do know what I'm trying to say. Megan is very well spoken and so may seem older. However, she is still a child (no offense Megan) with a childs curiosity about things. Someone this age is probably trully seeking answers to her questions based on experiences beyond her.


Trish, I disagree. The only time I 'moderate ' what I say to anyone of any age is if I see they are not understanding. I don't assume, (or would like to think I don't) that their age is a factor in their mental ability.
Ok, if you don't know what you are trying to say, I'll modify my responce to you.
And further more, I still have a 'childs curiosity'. How dull life would be without it, that's why we are not supposed to trust anyone over 30. The only person over 30 I trust is ME! Everyone else is too serious with no curiosity.

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Stygma
New Member

36 Posts

Posted - 03/13/2002 :  07:44:47   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Stygma a Private Message
Although I don't think anyone here is judged by age, a small feature wouldn't be a bad idea. Maybe a little title to set-off a 'smaller words, please' alarm. Maybe even custom titles! Those are always fun.

Always remember that you're unique--just like everyone else.
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Megan
Skeptic Friend

USA
163 Posts

Posted - 03/13/2002 :  07:46:16   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Megan a Private Message
Lisa, I totally agree on having something that allows other posters to know the persons age.

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I hope this is making some sense, simply because I do know what I'm trying to say. Megan is very well spoken and so may seem older. However, she is still a child (no offense Megan) with a childs curiosity about things. Someone this age is probably trully seeking answers to her questions based on experiences beyond her. She doesn't yet have the capacity for filtering some of the information as presented and always separating the good from the bad. She may also be interesting in understanding the thought process behind some of the conclusions that are drawn, where we assume an understanding of the thought process because we, through our own experience, have either drawn the same conclusion or at least see how a specific conclusion could be drawn.

Trish, I'll have to agree with you on this one.

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One other recommendation... Megan has a tendency to "post and run", that is, not to engage in a discussion but just drop a question and (I assume) read the answers without much (if any) follow-up. Maybe if she would try to make it a dialog, we'd have a better chance of hitting the right notes.

This isn't meant as a put-down, by the way. I know her on-line time is limited (isn't everybody's?) but I bet she'd get better answers if she'd let us know when we're getting through and when we're wide of the mark.


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You got a point here, Donnie.



I understand Donnie.

But whatever @tomic decides to do, I'll like it!!

~Megan~

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Slater
SFN Regular

USA
1668 Posts

Posted - 03/13/2002 :  09:07:40   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Slater a Private Message
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Lisa, I totally agree on having something that allows other posters to know the persons age.



That is because, my dear, you are of an age that is worth posting.
Some of us would prefer to remain vague.

I'd like a title of "venerable" to warn people who are replying to me to use a larger point size to their type.

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It will sometimes be necessary to use falsehood for the benefit of those who need such a mode of treatment.
----Eusebius of Nicomedia,
[i]The Preparation of the Gospel[/i]
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James
SFN Regular

USA
754 Posts

Posted - 03/13/2002 :  10:56:21   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send James a Yahoo! Message Send James a Private Message
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quote:

Lisa, I totally agree on having something that allows other posters to know the persons age.



That is because, my dear, you are of an age that is worth posting.
Some of us would prefer to remain vague.

I'd like a title of "venerable" to warn people who are replying to me to use a larger point size to their type.


How about @ sets up a menu under our profiles that has different words/phrases/ages in it that we can set up or even not have showing at all? That way we still have the option of it being there and we can set it for however we feel that day or even something else.

Sound good or am I just experiencing a Hump Day thing?

"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your common sense." -Buddha
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@tomic
Administrator

USA
4607 Posts

Posted - 03/13/2002 :  11:10:49   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit @tomic's Homepage Send @tomic a Private Message
Actually James, that functionality already exists. There are many fields to fill out in the profile and the ones not filled out are not shown.

@tomic

Gravity, not just a good idea...it's the law!
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Snake
SFN Addict

USA
2511 Posts

Posted - 03/13/2002 :  22:35:27   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Snake's Homepage  Send Snake an ICQ Message  Send Snake a Yahoo! Message Send Snake a Private Message
quote:

quote:

Lisa, I totally agree on having something that allows other posters to know the persons age.



That is because, my dear, you are of an age that is worth posting.
Some of us would prefer to remain vague.

I'd like a title of "venerable" to warn people who are replying to me to use a larger point size to their type.


Thank you, thank you, thank you, Slater.
Also I don't think it would do any good to know that my son is 18 and I have another child twice Megans age, I could not only be Megans father but her grandparent, ha ha, however I'm very childish, naive, and need much more education in history and current events to logicaly discuss some topics, so what does it matter what my cronologicl age is? Different people have different areas of expertiez and expierence, not nessassarly related to age. What IF someone says they are 50, or 32 or 85? I think it only puts a mental picture in anothers mind that probably isn't correct. It's better to say Where someone is from rather than gather that they know more than they do because of their age.

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Lisa
SFN Regular

USA
1223 Posts

Posted - 03/13/2002 :  23:28:24   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Lisa a Private Message
Sheesh! Maybe I was wrong to even bring this up. She lives next door, and I'm delighted she's on this forum. She doesn't really "fit in" with her family in some ways. I just thought if you guys were more aware that there are some young 'uns on this board, and knew who they were, I wouldn't have Meg on my doorstep asking for translations.
She's introduced a friend of her's to the board too. No names, but he has 20+ posts. He's 14.
Be prepared for a lot of questions from Megan in the future. She's decided to look for a college with a science degree in mind. Hey BA, she's thinking about astronomy!
Lisa

If you're not living on the edge, you're taking up too much room.
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Snake
SFN Addict

USA
2511 Posts

Posted - 03/14/2002 :  01:03:10   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Snake's Homepage  Send Snake an ICQ Message  Send Snake a Yahoo! Message Send Snake a Private Message
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Sheesh! Maybe I was wrong to even bring this up. She lives next door, and I'm delighted she's on this forum. She doesn't really "fit in" with her family in some ways

Hey! Welcome to the club. I never fit in with my family, community, school, whatever. It wasn't until I got on line (a relatively short time ago) and started finding people around the country and world, that I knew there were really so many more who I could relate to and communitcate with. (thank you Kil, Ray, Dawn, etc.)
Megan and all the others of her generation are so lucky to grow up in a time when she doesn't have to be isolated. She's lucky she didn't have to wait 30 years to find a place to ask those questions.

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Megan
Skeptic Friend

USA
163 Posts

Posted - 03/15/2002 :  12:39:12   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Megan a Private Message
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Megan and all the others of her generation are so lucky to grow up in a time when she doesn't have to be isolated. She's lucky she didn't have to wait 30 years to find a place to ask those questions.

Thank you Snake!! I do think that my generation is lucky to have something like the net right at our fingertips. And to be able to have fun and learn at the same time.....whoa!!

quote:
I just thought if you guys were more aware that there are some young 'uns on this board, and knew who they were, I wouldn't have Meg on my doorstep asking for translations.


Jee thanks Lisa

~Megan~

BTW, I'm a 15 year old that never stops asking questions(=P).
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Bradley
Skeptic Friend

USA
147 Posts

Posted - 03/15/2002 :  13:07:09   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Bradley a Private Message
I wouldn't like to have Megan relegated to a "junior skeptic" type forum. Her posts are intelligent and enjoyable. Anyway, there are no distinctions like age, race, social class, or gender in cyberspace. One's level of intelligence tends to speak for itself. How does any observer know in cyberspace whether or not another's persona is genuine?

"Too much doubt is better than too much credulity."

-Robert Green Ingersoll (1833 - 1899)
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Megan
Skeptic Friend

USA
163 Posts

Posted - 03/15/2002 :  13:20:15   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Megan a Private Message
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I wouldn't like to have Megan relegated to a "junior skeptic" type forum. Her posts are intelligent and enjoyable.


Thank you Bradley!!! I think that you are one of the few people I know that actually think my posts are intelligent and enjoyable!! (Not counting the whole SFN board)

~Megan~

BTW, I'm a 15 year old that never stops asking questions(=P).
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