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filthy
SFN Die Hard
USA
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 Posted - 04/11/2002 : 12:45:22 [Permalink]
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Damn! Did it again.</P><P>How come the post get's cut?</P><P>Can't be censorship, I'd not think. I was only inciting to riot, not swearing.</P><P>f
"The way to see by faith is to shut the eye of reason."--Benjamin Franklin, _Poor_Richard_, 1758
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Donnie B.
Skeptic Friend
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Posted - 04/12/2002 : 08:49:49 [Permalink]
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You know, if we all went together, they might give us special treatment -- you know, where you get the place of honor on the "Stone the Sinner" ride...
-- Donnie B.
Brian: "No, no! You have to think for yourselves!" Crowd: "Yes! We have to think for ourselves!" |
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Wolfgang_faust
Skeptic Friend
USA
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Posted - 04/12/2002 : 08:59:08 [Permalink]
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RE: Special treatment. Maybe they would gather us all up and cast all of our demons into pigs. That would be fun.
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
USA
14408 Posts |
Posted - 04/12/2002 : 09:37:06 [Permalink]
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We should all wear: Have You Hugged An Atheist Today? tee shirts.
f
"The way to see by faith is to shut the eye of reason."--Benjamin Franklin, _Poor_Richard_, 1758
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InChrist
New Member
USA
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Posted - 04/24/2002 : 00:44:12 [Permalink]
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Greetings all.
This is my first post in this forum, but not my second post on this site. Why'd I choose this one? because I found it to be pretty funny. If you want to read about where I'm coming from, I posted a nice, long explanation in Christian Salvation.
Why is this funny to someone who is a Christian? I don't wish to put down the people who are doing this. I assume everyone professing to be a Christian just that, a Christian. But I can't deny that it's kind of absurd. I know that none of you take this stuff seriously. Neither do I. But those who are often the most prominent are associated with those who aren't. So I posted this that you might know that I'm not the same, I'm different. Naturally you might say that "Aren't all Christians supposed to be 'one?' " Yes. But I will agree with that so far as it conerns my belief in God and Christ, not some crazy theme park. Christianity does not need any theme park for the only place you can see it is in people.
Anyway, I felt compelled to share that with everybody. Just my thoughts.
Grace and Peace
Josh
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Valiant Dancer
Forum Goalie
USA
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Posted - 04/24/2002 : 08:18:13 [Permalink]
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quote:
Greetings all.
This is my first post in this forum, but not my second post on this site. Why'd I choose this one? because I found it to be pretty funny. If you want to read about where I'm coming from, I posted a nice, long explanation in Christian Salvation.
Why is this funny to someone who is a Christian? I don't wish to put down the people who are doing this. I assume everyone professing to be a Christian just that, a Christian. But I can't deny that it's kind of absurd. I know that none of you take this stuff seriously. Neither do I. But those who are often the most prominent are associated with those who aren't. So I posted this that you might know that I'm not the same, I'm different. Naturally you might say that "Aren't all Christians supposed to be 'one?' " Yes. But I will agree with that so far as it conerns my belief in God and Christ, not some crazy theme park. Christianity does not need any theme park for the only place you can see it is in people.
Anyway, I felt compelled to share that with everybody. Just my thoughts.
Grace and Peace
Josh
Josh,
Greetings and welcome to the board. You are correct, we are in fact poking fun at fundamentalism (the kind which thinks they need a theme park) and this is truely an exercise in humor. It would not surprise me that Christians would find this particularly funny as absurdity is often funny. (except if it has a law based on it.) The people here who are professing to by Christian are, in fact, Christian.
Again, welcome to the board.
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
USA
14408 Posts |
Posted - 04/24/2002 : 10:02:00 [Permalink]
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Hi Josh and welcome!
While I find that the fundies can be most amusing, though often irritating (and, living in the bowels of the Bible Belt, I get to see more of them than most), I'd not wish to dissuade anyone from practicing any faith. That includes Islam, Buddaism, Hindi, Wicca, or the Great and Caustic Mojo, if it comes to that (I especally like Rasta. Lots of good smoke, even though steel band can get a little old after a while).
But I find any sort of fundalmentialism less than comprehensible, especally the Christian, Old Testament kind where the deity comes off as a frothing, meglomanical psychopath. I can't speak for anyone but myself, but I think most if not all of the regulars here feel pretty much the same way.
So anyhow, looking forward to your input.
f
"He who joyfully marches in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would suffice."
- Albert Einstein
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DVF
Skeptic Friend
USA
96 Posts |
Posted - 04/25/2002 : 09:57:27 [Permalink]
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Hi Josh,
We have all kinds on this board. True, we aren't sure what some of those kinds are, but we got em.
I think you'll find that the members here won't make too many assumptions about your beliefs simply because you're a christian. You made the statement that we might think,
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"Aren't all Christians supposed to be 'one?' "
But christians have more sects and divisions than than I can count, with radically different beliefs from one group to the next. The only thing I personaly will assume about you because you consider yourself a christian is that you believe that there was really a person named Jesus who died and was resurected and that you also believe in his alleged teachings. Please correct me if I'm mistaken. As Skeptics, I think we'd rather have you tell us what you believe than make assumptions about it. Just be prepared to defend any statement you make concerning factual, provable phenomena or events. You want to believe in a god, more power to you. You want me to believe in a god, have him send me a resume including times he's available for interview.
Welcome to the board.
"Know what, if you were in a building, and it was on fire, I'd rescue you."
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Lars_H
SFN Regular
Germany
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Posted - 04/25/2002 : 10:23:43 [Permalink]
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The only thing I personaly will assume about you because you consider yourself a christian is that you believe that there was really a person named Jesus who died and was resurected and that you also believe in his alleged teachings.
You might be assuming to much there. I know several people who consider themselves christians and do not take everything that the bible says about Jesus literally. They think that it is not important if all those miracles really happened or not. What matters is the message. Of course the message are their own personal convictions about what is right and what is wrong that they project in the book.
Those people probably won't consider themselves as very religious, but they do mark the appropiate boxes on forms, send their children to get christian religious lessons at school and pay church taxes. They consider themselves Christians.
There is basically nothing that you can assume about someone on the basis that he calls himself a Christian other than the fact that there are a lot of people out there who would contest his claim.
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Kacey
Skeptic Friend
USA
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James
SFN Regular
USA
754 Posts |
Posted - 05/19/2002 : 20:42:52 [Permalink]
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Just for the record, there is a theme park. Check it out
Kacey
Yeah, and it, like Cardinal Law after blaming a 6-yr. old for molestation from a priest, is full of elephant crap.
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the_ignored
SFN Addict
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Posted - 05/19/2002 : 21:44:44 [Permalink]
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The Creation Museum—a time machine!
by Ken Ham, AiG–US President
18 May 2002
As the momentum and excitement build for the Creation Museum, I wanted to give you a glimpse of what will be in store for people when it finally opens here in the Northern Kentucky/Cincinnati area. The following is a small part of the storyline from which our exhibit designer is working feverishly to design startling exhibits to present vital teaching. We trust this ‘peep hole' will enthuse you to pray for this important project. Here are some of the questions the museum will tackle:
Where did we come from?
Is there any purpose and meaning to life?
How did the universe come into existence?
What happens to us when we die?
We have a problem! We live in the present, but we want to know what happened in the past ...
What remarkable events occurred to form the Earth?
Why did plants and animals come into existence?
Where did the sun, moon and stars come from?
Who were the first humans?
AND...
Why are there fossils?
What formed the Grand Canyon?
Why is the world full of death?
What makes some people so evil, and who decides right and wrong?
Can anyone solve the mystery of the dinosaurs?
What formed the different ‘races'?
The true history of the universe!
If you want the answers to these and many other questions—if you want to see mysteries solved before your very eyes...come through the vision gate!
Did you know that everyone really wears ‘glasses'? You see, whether we are talking about dinosaurs, fossils, animals or stars, the facts are all the same, BUT we understand or interpret these facts depending on the ‘glasses' we have been taught to wear. There are only two types of ‘glasses.'
1. Secular ‘glasses.'
These represent the beliefs that fallible humans use to try to explain how and why the universe exists. These beliefs cause us to ‘see' these facts in a particular way, to view them through this account of supposed history:
He's only partially right: if one has to selectively ignore certain facts while using others, though, then his analogy is disingenuous. See: http://home.austarnet.com.au/stear/sarfati s_RE_reviewed_henke.htm where AIG's Jonathan Sarfati's book "Refuting Evolution" only stands because he keeps leaving OUT certain facts! Then there's
http://www.answersingenesis.org/docs/248.asp
where Sarfati uses selective facts to back up his idea that the "lack" of Supernova remnants points to a young universe. That's refuted here:
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/supernova/
Some more of AIG's arguements can be countered at
http://home.austarnet.com.au/stear/answers_in_genesis.htm as well as at:
http://www.talkorigins.org
Another good site I found was:
http://www.actionbioscience.org/evolution/index.html
Back to your regularly scheduled dose of Bull:
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The 7 Es of ‘history'
EVOLUTION —the universe began without any supernatural intervention—life evolved on Earth by random processes
EVIL —death, disease, violence and suffering have existed through time
EARTH —the Earth has been molded by billions of years of processes—including laying down of the fossil layers
EVERYONE —people and languages evolved from an ape-like ancestor
ETHICS —religion, and ideas of right and wrong, evolved
ESCAPE —death ends man's existence
END —the sun will run out—life will cease—the universe may ‘die.'
2. Biblical ‘glasses.'
A unique book, called the Bible, claims over 3,000 times that it is the Word of God—written by an Infinite Being who used different people |
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