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Marc_a_b
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USA
142 Posts

Posted - 03/19/2002 :  19:20:58  Show Profile  Send Marc_a_b an AOL message Send Marc_a_b a Private Message
My nephew is growing up to be a good little skeptic. Recently he came across a Young Earth Creationist site. He tried asking them a question on how come there are no fossils of humans or modern animals alongside dinosaur fossils. He got a response long on words, but short on facts.

He is considering responding with this link.

James
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USA
754 Posts

Posted - 03/19/2002 :  19:28:34   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send James a Yahoo! Message Send James a Private Message
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My nephew is growing up to be a good little skeptic. Recently he came across a Young Earth Creationist site. He tried asking them a question on how come there are no fossils of humans or modern animals alongside dinosaur fossils. He got a response long on words, but short on facts.

He is considering responding with this link.


[/quote]

Perfect!

"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your common sense." -Buddha
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filthy
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USA
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Posted - 03/19/2002 :  19:28:42   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message
Not bad. I like it.

But, I think he should also add a little polite text on his side of the subject.

I'd like to hear how it comes out.

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"Don't tell me your doubts; I've got enough doubts of my own. Tell me something you BELIEVE in!"
Brother Dave Gardner
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Kaneda Kuonji
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USA
138 Posts

Posted - 03/19/2002 :  23:34:01   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Kaneda Kuonji a Private Message
Beautiful...yes, he'll be a great skeptic!

Rodney Dean, CI Order of the Knights of Jubal
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Bradley
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USA
147 Posts

Posted - 03/20/2002 :  11:58:19   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Bradley a Private Message
How about the following dialog for a verbal response?

creationist: Who do you think made you?

skeptic: I wasn't made; I evolved. We all evolved - some of us more than others, if you get my drift.

Only the very dullest of the dull fail to get the drift, and, oooh, they don't like that one.

"Too much doubt is better than too much credulity."

-Robert Green Ingersoll (1833 - 1899)
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SueW0
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USA
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Posted - 03/20/2002 :  13:54:06   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit SueW0's Homepage  Send SueW0 an AOL message Send SueW0 a Private Message
Well, that was short on words *and* facts. I think he'd make a better skeptic if he answered back telling them exactly what was wrong with their answer. I bet even a 10-year-old could do that!

Sue

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rickm
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Canada
109 Posts

Posted - 03/21/2002 :  23:31:16   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send rickm a Private Message
Great link, I think I will use this one myself.

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How can I believe in God when just last week I got my tongue caught in the roller of an electric typewriter?
-- Woody Allen, Without Feathers, 1975
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rickm
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Canada
109 Posts

Posted - 03/22/2002 :  17:38:18   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send rickm a Private Message
The link got me banned from a christian debate site. Oh well

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How can I believe in God when just last week I got my tongue caught in the roller of an electric typewriter?
-- Woody Allen, Without Feathers, 1975
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SueW0
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USA
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Posted - 03/25/2002 :  18:00:47   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit SueW0's Homepage  Send SueW0 an AOL message Send SueW0 a Private Message
[quote] The link got me banned from a christian debate site[/quote]

That link whould get you banned from any debate site. Name-calling is not debate! There's nothing to stop creationists from doing the same thing.

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Tim
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USA
775 Posts

Posted - 03/27/2002 :  03:15:02   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Tim a Private Message
OK, who changed this web site around. I haven't been here in awhile, and I got lost. Oh, well. I guess that's my problem.

Anyway, as much as I loved "this link", and got a great chuckle out of it, I really have to agree with SueW0. I get enough intolerance, and ad hominem attacks from the Christian right to realize I would never want to stoop to the same level.

Sorry, all. But I guess I'm just a spoil sport.

"The Constitution ..., is a marvelous document for self-government by Christian people. But the minute you turn the document into the hands of non-Christian and atheistic people they can use it to destroy the very foundation of our society." P. Robertson
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jec96
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USA
61 Posts

Posted - 04/09/2002 :  17:19:06   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send jec96 a Private Message
Hey folks..gotta weigh in with Sue on this one...I have found out that calm, rational discussion, and facts presented as there furor rises, is one of the best debate winning tools out there...

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Tim
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USA
775 Posts

Posted - 04/10/2002 :  03:41:51   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Tim a Private Message
Hello, Jec. First post? Good to see new blood.

"The Constitution ..., is a marvelous document for self-government by Christian people. But the minute you turn the document into the hands of non-Christian and atheistic people they can use it to destroy the very foundation of our society." P. Robertson
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NottyImp
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United Kingdom
143 Posts

Posted - 04/10/2002 :  05:19:53   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send NottyImp a Private Message
"Hey folks..gotta weigh in with Sue on this one...I have found out that calm, rational discussion, and facts presented as there furor rises, is one of the best debate winning tools out there..."

You do? Shame that never works with my girl-friend (ahem).

OK, I deserve a right panning for that one...

"Be realistic, demand the impossible" - graffiti from Paris, May 1968.
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Valiant Dancer
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USA
4826 Posts

Posted - 04/10/2002 :  06:14:44   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Valiant Dancer's Homepage Send Valiant Dancer a Private Message
quote:

"Hey folks..gotta weigh in with Sue on this one...I have found out that calm, rational discussion, and facts presented as there furor rises, is one of the best debate winning tools out there..."

You do? Shame that never works with my girl-friend (ahem).

OK, I deserve a right panning for that one...

"Be realistic, demand the impossible" - graffiti from Paris, May 1968.



You are making the mistake that you ever had a chance to win the arguement in the first place.

If a man speaks in the forest and there is no woman around to hear him, is he still wrong?




Cthulu/Asmodeus, when you're tired of voting for the lesser of two evils.
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NottyImp
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United Kingdom
143 Posts

Posted - 04/10/2002 :  06:30:38   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send NottyImp a Private Message
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You are making the mistake that you ever had a chance to win the arguement in the first place.

If a man speaks in the forest and there is no woman around to hear him, is he still wrong?" (Valiant Dancer)

And you''re going to get panned for that one! :)





"Be realistic, demand the impossible" - graffiti from Paris, May 1968.
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jec96
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USA
61 Posts

Posted - 04/10/2002 :  09:08:54   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send jec96 a Private Message
True, perhaps I used the wrong words...holding ground may be a better phrase. Having been raised Catholic, and first marriage was to a Southern Baptist, and I am now a skeptic...any wonder I am confused?

-It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
Aristotle
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