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Kil
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 Posted - 09/25/2011 : 21:52:14 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by CRUX
Will you deny that you altered thread 1 after banning MG ?
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Hey! Dave is a tough debater. But he's not dishonest. No way! Why would you accuse him of altering a thread?  |
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CRUX
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Posted - 09/25/2011 : 22:10:25 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Kil
Originally posted by CRUX
Will you deny that you altered thread 1 after banning MG ?
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Hey! Dave is a tough debater. But he's not dishonest. No way! Why would you accuse him of altering a thread?
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Because he did, Kil. |
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CRUX
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Posted - 09/25/2011 : 22:17:36 [Permalink]
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I was just perusing looking for what I want, and I found another example of his "honest" approach that you like, Kil
It's very similar to the same honest debate and enquiry that he just demonstrated by asking the Aegean task. Using his position, to demand. Your staff demands for suchlike tasks to be performed, they have been backed by "or else".
You know that happens.
Is that right to do ?
Is that honest debate ? Kil ? is that honest ?
Anyhow, while looking, I found another quick 2 examples ( just brought one) of DaveW being honest bloke.
| Quick quiz, Muhammed: what are the two main phenotypes that all species of flamingo fall into? |
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Dave W.
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Posted - 09/25/2011 : 22:18:24 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by CRUX
Because he did, Kil. |
I await your presentation of evidence in support of your accusation. |
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CRUX
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Posted - 09/25/2011 : 22:21:14 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dave W.
Originally posted by CRUX
Because he did, Kil. |
I await your presentation of evidence in support of your accusation.
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it's not like I have a file ready on it, bub.
To Kil/
Do you think it is honest to use an example to disprove, but to deny that the same evidence exists for the counter ?
For instance, if a report is presented to me as an evidence that cockatoos respond differently to the food stimulus than do flamingos
..and then to say that any testing of the birds with food, that must have happened "in my head" ?...and that, after using such kind of evidence to attempt a counter[argument to my assertions ?
Now it seems they've never been tested, but before it was good enough evidence to use. |
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Dave W.
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Posted - 09/25/2011 : 22:30:23 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by CRUX
I was just perusing looking for what I want, and I found another example of his "honest" approach that you like, Kil |
That wasn't an example of me "Removing some of [my] own comments and some others, comments that might have been embarrassing to [me] because [I] [was] shown to be stupid."| it's not like I have a file ready on it, bub. |
So you made the accusation without having evidence for it.
How much time do you think you'll need to do your homework? A couple days? A week? A month? |
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Kil
Evil Skeptic
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Posted - 09/25/2011 : 22:31:44 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by CRUX
I was just perusing looking for what I want, and I found another example of his "honest" approach that you like, Kil
It's very similar to the same honest debate and enquiry that he just demonstrated by asking the Aegean task. Using his position, to demand. Your staff demands for suchlike tasks to be performed, they have been backed by "or else".
You know that happens.
Is that right to do ?
Is that honest debate ? Kil ? is that honest ?
Anyhow, while looking, I found another quick 2 examples ( just brought one) of DaveW being honest bloke.
| Quick quiz, Muhammed: what are the two main phenotypes that all species of flamingo fall into? |
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Dave is dead honest and so am I. Have we demanded answers to questions? Sure. If we feel like we are being trolled, we have done that. Unlike most forums where they would have just banned a suspected troll, we give them a chance. We don't like to ban people here. And yeah, this can be a tough forum. I know.
One thing I know for sure. Dave has never altered a thread. And I haven't either. Whatever they are now is what they were, for all to see.
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CRUX
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Posted - 09/25/2011 : 22:36:58 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Kil
Originally posted by CRUX
I was just perusing looking for what I want, and I found another example of his "honest" approach that you like, Kil
It's very similar to the same honest debate and enquiry that he just demonstrated by asking the Aegean task. Using his position, to demand. Your staff demands for suchlike tasks to be performed, they have been backed by "or else".
You know that happens.
Is that right to do ?
Is that honest debate ? Kil ? is that honest ?
Anyhow, while looking, I found another quick 2 examples ( just brought one) of DaveW being honest bloke.
| Quick quiz, Muhammed: what are the two main phenotypes that all species of flamingo fall into? |
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Dave is dead honest and so am I. Have we demanded answers to questions? Sure. If we feel like we are being trolled, we do. Unlike most forums where they would have just banned a total dickhead, we give them a chance. We don't like to ban people here.
One thing I know for sure. Dave has never altered a thread. And I haven't either. Whatever they are now is what they were, for all to see.
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Kil, how do you know that for a fact, please ? |
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Dave W.
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Posted - 09/25/2011 : 22:39:46 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by CRUX
Kil, how do you know that for a fact, please ? |
Yeah, now you'll try to shift the burden of proof, instead of providing evidence for your own claim. |
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CRUX
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Posted - 09/25/2011 : 22:40:58 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dave W.
Originally posted by CRUX
I was just perusing looking for what I want, and I found another example of his "honest" approach that you like, Kil[quote]That wasn't an example of me "Removing some of [my] own comments and some others, comments that might have been embarrassing to [me] because [I] [was] shown to be stupid."[quote]it's not like I have a file ready on it, bub. |
How dense are you, Dave ? Or is more honesty ? Where does I say that it was ? I said it is an example of something ELSE I happened to notice. Something other than alterations. Sheesh !
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So you made the accusation without having evidence for it. |
That is not the case. |
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Dave W.
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Posted - 09/25/2011 : 22:41:54 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by CRUX
..and then to say that any testing of the birds with food, that must have happened "in my head" ? |
I never said that. You're just making shit up. |
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CRUX
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Posted - 09/25/2011 : 22:44:32 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by CRUX
Originally posted by Dave W.
Originally posted by CRUX
Because he did, Kil. |
I await your presentation of evidence in support of your accusation.
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it's not like I have a file ready on it, bub.
To Kil/
Do you think it is honest to use an example to disprove, but to deny that the same evidence exists for the counter ?
For instance, if a report is presented to me as an evidence that cockatoos respond differently to the food stimulus than do flamingos
..and then to say that any testing of the birds with food, that must have happened "in my head" ?...and that, after using such kind of evidence to attempt a counter-argument to my assertions ?
Now it seems they've never been tested, but before it was good enough evidence to use.
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CRUX
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Posted - 09/25/2011 : 22:47:28 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dave W.
Originally posted by CRUX
Kil, how do you know that for a fact, please ? |
Yeah, now you'll try to shift the burden of proof, instead of providing evidence for your own claim.
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Not at all, Dave. It would not be possible for Kil to know that nothing happened, unless he had a good means of ensuring that. IOW, I asked how he knows it, how it is ensured.
It's got nothing to do with him providing evidence of a negative or anything like that, or burden shifting, as you wrongly claim.
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Kil
Evil Skeptic
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Posted - 09/25/2011 : 22:49:32 [Permalink]
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CRUX:
Kil, how do you know that for a fact, please ? |
I follow the threads, even when I'm not commenting. Dave is an administrator here, as am I. But I am one of the founders of SFN. So I've been here the whole time Dave has. Never once has he altered a thread. We just don't do that. Above all, and no matter how gnarly it gets, we have ethical standards that we must have if we are to be a skeptics forum. It just doesn't happen. We couldn't function if it did. And I still don't know why you would make such a serious accusation? |
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CRUX
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Posted - 09/25/2011 : 22:52:28 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dave W.
Originally posted by CRUX
I had asked that if you had a difference to point out, I might be able to speculate. |
You couldn't even pick some for yourself? You set yourself up as an expert in the field.You did not ask about any difference in specific. You just didn't. You're asking for something else. The cause of the appearance of the facial hair.
If I picked it's whitish appearance, and tried to speculate on that, ..would THAT be an explanation of "the facial hair appearance"? For some reason, I guess that it would only raise howls that the whiteness is not the whole appearance, not the total ball of waxed moustachio, and so on... instead of consideration and thought about the enormity of what you ask...the thing that you just dumped. |
Hey, you're the one who thinks that the pinkness of flamingo feathers has a "SOLE" cause. I figured you'd think the same of the appearance of the man in the photo. You studiously ignore the complexity of the flamingo, why wouldn't you ignore the complexity of the man?
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See, here is stupidity at max force. The birds had been examined and tested with foods for a very specific difference. Color change. what fairness he displays. |
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