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Cuneiformist
The Imperfectionist
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 Posted - 07/23/2008 : 10:28:27 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Mycroft
Originally posted by Dude
Yeah, but a billboard accusing democrats of killing 3000+ US citizens doesn't meet your criteria for calling someone evil? |
The billboard doesn't say that. That's what you read into it. |
No, it doesn't literally say that. Indeed, billboards can't speak. But it's the obvious message. Were I make a billboard with the slogan "don't vote Republican" and put imagery of Hitler and Nazis in the background, it's unmistakable that I'm associating Republicans with Nazi Germany.
As a related aside, the owner of the billboard said in an interview on CNN, "I believe 9/11 could have been prevented if we'd had a Republican President at the time." No, really. He said that.
I don't think cognitive dissonance is the right term here, but there has to be a term to explain this. You blindly love your team. Something bad happens that can logically be the considered the fault of your team. You refuse to accept that your team could be at fault for this bad thing. Thus, it has to be the fault of the other team. And then you convince yourself that that is reality.
This, of course, is predicated on buying into a black-and-white "my team/your team" mentality. Still, it's creepy. |
| Edited by - Cuneiformist on 07/23/2008 15:37:50 |
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Dude
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 07/23/2008 : 13:44:20 [Permalink]
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Mycroft, the billboard says exactly that.
By your logic I could take a picture of a guy fucking a goat, put the words "please don't vote for a republican" on it... and I would NOT be saying that republicans are goatfuckers. Uh huh.
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Chippewa
SFN Regular
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Posted - 07/23/2008 : 16:01:38 [Permalink]
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One could retaliate factually: Wide billboard with a split screen showing pictures of members of the Taliban meeting in Texas when Bush was governor and Rumsfeld shaking hands with Sadam in Baghdad, all above the words: "Don't Vote Republican."
Taliban in Texas
Rummy and Sadam
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Kil
Evil Skeptic
USA
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Posted - 07/23/2008 : 16:01:55 [Permalink]
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Cune:
As a related aside, the owner of the billboard said in an interview on CNN, "I believe 9/11 could have been prevented if we'd had a Republican President at the time." No, really. He said that. |
So, this becomes a question of whether a person can be evil and stupid at the same time. I'm not sure that he doesn't loose some evil points based on his stupidity. You know, the more stupid, the less evil he can be do to the lack of a conceptual grasp of evil to some degree. How exactly does that work?
Personally, I'm with Forrest Gump on this one. "Stupid is as stupid does" would, it seems to me, allow for the billboard to be seen as evil. |
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bngbuck
SFN Addict
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Posted - 07/23/2008 : 17:32:59 [Permalink]
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Dude.....
| By your logic I could take a picture of a guy fucking a goat, put the words "please don't vote for a republican" on it... and I would NOT be saying that republicans are goatfuckers. Uh huh. |
Hilarious image, Dude. I'll provide the goat if you'll find a photogenic goatfucker! We'll make political history!
Mooner, I dare you to put your photoshop skills to work on this one!
I know, it's pushing the envelope into next week, but I can dream, can't I? |
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Mycroft
Skeptic Friend
USA
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Posted - 08/10/2008 : 11:00:08 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Cuneiformist
No, it doesn't literally say that. Indeed, billboards can't speak. But it's the obvious message. Were I make a billboard with the slogan "don't vote Republican" and put imagery of Hitler and Nazis in the background, it's unmistakable that I'm associating Republicans with Nazi Germany. |
Something that's been done in these forums, by the way.
Originally posted by Cuneiformist
As a related aside, the owner of the billboard said in an interview on CNN, "I believe 9/11 could have been prevented if we'd had a Republican President at the time." No, really. He said that. |
Well, then we can agree that he's either really stupid, or that he mispoke.
Originally posted by Cuneiformist
I don't think cognitive dissonance is the right term here, but there has to be a term to explain this. You blindly love your team. Something bad happens that can logically be the considered the fault of your team. You refuse to accept that your team could be at fault for this bad thing. Thus, it has to be the fault of the other team. And then you convince yourself that that is reality.
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It's partisan politics. It's deciding that one party, one group, or one portion of the political spectrum has all the right answers and that everyone else in not only wrong, but immoral. |
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 08/10/2008 : 12:11:02 [Permalink]
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No one has all of the answers, but evidently, over the couple of decades or so, the Republicans have lost any that they might have had, thank you conservative idiologues and religious fundamentalist swine.
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Maverick
Skeptic Friend
Sweden
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Posted - 08/10/2008 : 13:39:51 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Cuneiformist
<br>As a related aside, the owner of the billboard said in an interview on CNN, "I believe 9/11 could have been prevented if we'd had a Republican President at the time." No, really. He said that. |
I would like to wake up now. |
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| Edited by - Maverick on 08/10/2008 13:40:26 |
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Dr. Mabuse
Septic Fiend
Sweden
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Posted - 08/10/2008 : 14:52:47 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Mycroft
Originally posted by Cuneiformist
No, it doesn't literally say that. Indeed, billboards can't speak. But it's the obvious message. Were I make a billboard with the slogan "don't vote Republican" and put imagery of Hitler and Nazis in the background, it's unmistakable that I'm associating Republicans with Nazi Germany. |
Something that's been done in these forums, by the way.
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...to prove a point.
And as Filthy already mentioned, closer to the mark. |
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