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chaloobi
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 Posted - 09/23/2008 : 16:41:49 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Zeked
chaloobi, I too am so frustrated with this economy. The Republican ideology of deregulation and "free markets" was like letting the inmates run the asylum. The Democratic ideology of believing that every American should own a home was probably the stupidest idea in the history of our country, and just proved that many morons in this country should rent forever. |
If you recall, Bush trumpeted his 'ownership society' about 6 years ago or so in a state of the union address, bragging that more Americans were buying instead of renting than ever in our history. Proof positive that Bush's big ass tax cuts were doing the job. Well, apparently they got to that statistic not by improving people's incomes but by looking the other way while mortgage companies made giant short term profits playing with financial TNT.
| The superconducting super collider was estimated to run over two times what LHC has actually spent. A lack of fiscal responsibility shut the SSC project down, too many butts doing meetings and PR, and too few butts doing productive work. There was more to it, but I have a bias against non-value added carpet dwellers today. |
The SSC was larger and would have been much more powerful than the LHC. The LHC is like a budget SSC. And so what if it cost double??? It's still pocket change. Never again can anybody tell me the paltry billions that go into science are somehow unaffordable. Not after seeing that bottomless pit in Iraq and now this insane Wallstreet Welfare proposal. Or how about the completely useless ICBM interceptors they're building all over the West? Wasted money, all of it. And wasted opportunity. There's so much more that could have been done with all this money - now not only is the money gone, but so is the opportunity. 
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Randy
SFN Regular
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Posted - 11/18/2008 : 04:34:12 [Permalink]
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Here's an update on the Large Haldron Collider. Looks like we'll have to hang on until next June til we can start blasting particles again.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7734251.stm
"The fault occurred just nine days after it was turned on with Cern blaming the shutdown on the failure of a single, badly soldered electrical connection in one of its super-cooled magnet sections."
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"We are all connected; to each other biologically, to the earth chemically, to the rest of the universe atomically."
"So you're made of detritus [from exploded stars]. Get over it. Or better yet, celebrate it. After all, what nobler thought can one cherish than that the universe lives within us all?"
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Randy
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Posted - 02/16/2009 : 18:48:36 [Permalink]
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| Bit of a update here. |
"We are all connected; to each other biologically, to the earth chemically, to the rest of the universe atomically."
"So you're made of detritus [from exploded stars]. Get over it. Or better yet, celebrate it. After all, what nobler thought can one cherish than that the universe lives within us all?"
-Neil DeGrasse Tyson |
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Randy
SFN Regular
USA
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Posted - 11/11/2009 : 07:16:07 [Permalink]
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| Well, it's about time. |
"We are all connected; to each other biologically, to the earth chemically, to the rest of the universe atomically."
"So you're made of detritus [from exploded stars]. Get over it. Or better yet, celebrate it. After all, what nobler thought can one cherish than that the universe lives within us all?"
-Neil DeGrasse Tyson |
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Dr. Mabuse
Septic Fiend
Sweden
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Posted - 11/11/2009 : 11:23:28 [Permalink]
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You know, I hate that term "the God particle".
It just gives so many people the wrong idea of what it's all about, and it's designed to provokes reactions from religious people for all the wrong reasons (from science's point of view). |
Dr. Mabuse - "When the going gets tough, the tough get Duct-tape..."
Dr. Mabuse whisper.mp3
"Equivocation is not just a job, for a creationist it's a way of life..." Dr. Mabuse
Support American Troops in Iraq:
Send them unarmed civilians for target practice..
Collateralmurder. |
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Randy
SFN Regular
USA
1990 Posts |
Posted - 11/20/2009 : 22:42:25 [Permalink]
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And now the boot-up continues, somewhat like a dog with three legs trying to get up.
Hopefully the LHC will follow Hubble's path of troubles/fix/tremendous gains in scientific discoveries. |
"We are all connected; to each other biologically, to the earth chemically, to the rest of the universe atomically."
"So you're made of detritus [from exploded stars]. Get over it. Or better yet, celebrate it. After all, what nobler thought can one cherish than that the universe lives within us all?"
-Neil DeGrasse Tyson |
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Cuneiformist
The Imperfectionist
USA
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Posted - 11/21/2009 : 09:22:05 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dr. Mabuse
You know, I hate that term "the God particle".
It just gives so many people the wrong idea of what it's all about, and it's designed to provokes reactions from religious people for all the wrong reasons (from science's point of view). |
I agree that the term is sort of ridiculous. Even ignoring the religious element, the term makes it sound as if finding this particle sort of resolves all our questions. But as near as I can tell, even if the Higgs boson is found, there are plenty of fundamental (no pun intended) questions-- particularly regarding fitting gravity into the Standard Model-- that have to be answered. |
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Dude
SFN Die Hard
USA
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Posted - 11/21/2009 : 10:32:23 [Permalink]
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You can probably thank the retarded media for coining that phrase.
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Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson
"god :: the last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument." - G. Carlin
Hope, n.
The handmaiden of desperation; the opiate of despair; the illegible signpost on the road to perdition. ~~ da filth |
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Hawks
SFN Regular
Canada
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Posted - 11/21/2009 : 11:32:51 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dude
You can probably thank the retarded media for coining that phrase.
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You can thank physicist Leon Lederman for that. |
METHINKS IT IS LIKE A WEASEL
It's a small, off-duty czechoslovakian traffic warden! |
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Cuneiformist
The Imperfectionist
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
USA
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 Posted - 11/21/2009 : 14:44:26 [Permalink]
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That's what I liked about it best; a particulate deity appeals to me.
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
and Crypto-Communist! 
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jacq
New Member
Australia
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 Posted - 11/22/2009 : 02:56:43 [Permalink]
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Just before they first time the turned on the LHC I was working at a high school as a teacher, and we got a DEAD SERIOUS phone call from a parent telling us that their children wouldn't be in because they wanted to spend their last day together...
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"The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully." — Richard Dawkins (The God Delusion) |
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Ricky
SFN Die Hard
USA
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
USA
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Posted - 11/22/2009 : 15:48:45 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by jacq
Just before they first time the turned on the LHC I was working at a high school as a teacher, and we got a DEAD SERIOUS phone call from a parent telling us that their children wouldn't be in because they wanted to spend their last day together...
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And why are con artists and preachers so often so successful, hmm?
There are so many people willing to believe anydamnfool thing that the future of the species looks grim. It will not be an artificial black hole that kills us off, but a pathetic tsunami of ignorance.
Which brings up the question of how do we educate the public? Answer: we don't/can't. They won't stand for it, most preferring fear of the unknown and the belief in some goblin or other to the wonders of science and the natural world.
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
and Crypto-Communist!
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Randy
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The Large Hadron Collider
