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filthy
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Posted - 09/08/2008 :  07:01:10  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Knowing what we know now, I think that the last image is prescient. Enjoy!




"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)

"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres


"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude

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filthy
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Posted - 09/08/2008 :  10:27:13   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
On an only distantly related matter, or maybe not so distantly:
Gov. Sarah Palin made her first potentially major gaffe during her time on the national scene while discussing the developments of the perilous housing market this past weekend.

Speaking before voters in Colorado Springs, the Republican vice presidential nominee claimed that lending giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac had "gotten too big and too expensive to the taxpayers." The companies, as McClatchy reported, "aren't taxpayer funded but operate as private companies. The takeover may result in a taxpayer bailout during reorganization."
Snide smiley mine.

So, evidently, what we have here is someone who "doesn't know as much as I should about the economy," but has Greenspan's book, and another with scarcly a clue at all beyond pork-sucking for her state.

This pair has the potential to be an even more magnificent disaster than Bush & The Swine.




"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)

"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres


"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude

Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,

and Crypto-Communist!

Edited by - filthy on 09/08/2008 10:47:36
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Dude
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Posted - 09/08/2008 :  10:32:37   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Dude a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yeah, too bad she isn't going to be interviewed by anyone who will call her out on this shit.

Ever.


Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson

"god :: the last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument." - G. Carlin

Hope, n.
The handmaiden of desperation; the opiate of despair; the illegible signpost on the road to perdition. ~~ da filth
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filthy
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Posted - 09/08/2008 :  11:03:26   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Dude

Yeah, too bad she isn't going to be interviewed by anyone who will call her out on this shit.

Ever.


Indeed. She's got one coming up and I'm betting they'll be puffers where all concerned will go out of it in smug good spirits.
As we learn the facts about Sarah Palin's first "interview," it's pretty clear that Charlie Gibson pretty much tossed aside whatever journalistic integrity he had. Seriously, the way this is playing out, Barbara Walters would have been a better choice. At least she doesn't pretend to be a real journalist. Josh Marshall explains:

it's pretty clear this farce is going to be close to unwatchable. Set aside that this comes just on the heels of McCain campaign manager Rick Davis saying Palin would not sit for any interviews "until the point in time when she'll be treated with respect and deference." The tell comes high up in the AP story by David Bauder. The second graf reads ...

Palin will sit down for multiple interviews with Gibson in Alaska over two days, most likely Thursday and Friday, said McCain adviser Mark Salter.
Respect & deference must be earned and can be lost as easily as gained, perhaps even more so. McCain himelf, is a good example of that. Of course this seems to be beyond neo-conservative comprehension. They will embrace anyone who will sing their song, however off-key it might be.




"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)

"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres


"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude

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Kil
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Posted - 09/08/2008 :  11:05:43   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Kil's Homepage  Send Kil an AOL message  Send Kil a Yahoo! Message Send Kil a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Dude

Yeah, too bad she isn't going to be interviewed by anyone who will call her out on this shit.

Ever.


Yeah, but you can be sure that Biden is writing it all down. And the Obama campaign is bound to use it.

Uncertainty may make you uncomfortable. Certainty makes you ridiculous.

Why not question something for a change?

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Dude
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Posted - 09/08/2008 :  11:53:10   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Dude a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Kil said:
Yeah, but you can be sure that Biden is writing it all down. And the Obama campaign is bound to use it.

I disagree.

I think the dems will let it all pass without much complaint.

Dems WANT to lose, apparently. And the tabloid corprolite corporate media gives not two shits about anything but ratings. They are all fellating the McCain campaign for a chance to interview Palin, and they will agree to anything demanded of them.


Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson

"god :: the last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument." - G. Carlin

Hope, n.
The handmaiden of desperation; the opiate of despair; the illegible signpost on the road to perdition. ~~ da filth
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filthy
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Posted - 09/08/2008 :  12:31:25   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
We've got a long way to go yet; perhaps the Dems will learn to street fight. If they don't, they will lose. The Rude Pundit has some thoughts on the matter:
Remembering John Edwards' Experience and How That Worked Out:

Let us remember, as others have, the full-bore attack by Republicans back in 2004 on the alleged lack of "experience" by John Kerry's pick for vice president, John Edwards:

Bill Frist, July 7, 2004 Washington Times: "From an experience level, there's going to be a lot of the on-the-job training, potentially, if he were to ever serve as vice president."
If nothing else, the Republicans can accused, rightly, of arrant hypocracy -- which is nothing new, of course.




"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)

"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres


"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude

Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,

and Crypto-Communist!

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Dude
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Posted - 09/08/2008 :  13:22:10   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Dude a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Dems should be hitting Palin, hard, on the patriotism issue. She was a member of the Alaska Independence Party (a secessionist movement), so was her husband.

Just imagine the media shitstorm and republican fake outrage if Obama or Biden had ever been a member of such a party!


Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson

"god :: the last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument." - G. Carlin

Hope, n.
The handmaiden of desperation; the opiate of despair; the illegible signpost on the road to perdition. ~~ da filth
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filthy
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Posted - 09/08/2008 :  16:44:16   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Mrs. Betty Bowers, the World's Best Christian sums it up from a Christian perseptive as only she can:
Sarah Palin told the faithful at the Republican Rallies that she was absolutely fearless. Apparently, that was just one of the many lies she told that night.

Because there is at least one thing that leaves her cowering in her igloo: a simple question. And she leaves a lot of those in her trail, as the McCain team is well aware. So Sarah “Pit Bull with Lipstick” Palin has been kenneled for fear that she will say something stupid.Or, worse, legally incriminating. Instead of putting lipstick on a pit bull it's all about putting gloss on bull.


No, she will not be talking to the press. After all, McCain picked her without knowing anything about her, why should the voters have it any better?



"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)

"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres


"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude

Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,

and Crypto-Communist!

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moakley
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Posted - 09/08/2008 :  16:54:31   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send moakley a Private Message  Reply with Quote
And of course there is this.
This will all be amplified after the vice presidential debate, in which Joe Biden, if he is aggressive with Palin, will be seen as demeaning; and if he is not aggressive, will be seen as patronizing.
Just another attempt stiffle serious scrutiny much like the "Unpatriotic" label was a few years ago.

Life is good

Philosophy is questions that may never be answered. Religion is answers that may never be questioned. -Anonymous
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Chippewa
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Posted - 09/08/2008 :  18:58:10   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Chippewa's Homepage Send Chippewa a Private Message  Reply with Quote
That pictorial summary of the RNC is spot on! Funny!

As for the VP debate - I think Biden should be himself; dramatic, rational and convincing, commanding, direct, firm yet under control, framing clear statements and answers to all questions, but at the same time - and figuratively speaking - within 2 seconds of her first lie, he should turn around and scalp her.

So as not to be accused of sexism, (that will happen anyway,) as the debate concludes, he should tie all of the many many scalps on his medicine belt, (a sign of respect.) And smile - figuratively speaking.

Diversity, independence, innovation and imagination are progressive concepts ultimately alien to the conservative mind.

"TAX AND SPEND" IS GOOD! (TAX: Wealthy corporations who won't go poor even after taxes. SPEND: On public works programs, education, the environment, improvements.)
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Zeked
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Posted - 09/08/2008 :  22:25:41   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Zeked a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Loved the photo essay. I do wonder if the one guy with the rebellious banner has recovered from the predictable police actions supporting free speech at the convention? Mace, taser or just some plastic tie handcuff lacerations - whats your guess?

I would love to hear a candidate speak of Freddy and Fannie with some honesty; "Fascist corporatism at its' finest. The government created and grew F&F, and socialized the entire industry of financing home purchases. Now the taxpayers are being tapped to bail them out. 200 Billion now, 300 Billion next year, and it might never end."

The Republican party convention video will hopefully be used in the future to show how delusional the government had become. The DNC just aint much better, like the general fund is a bottomless pit of wealth to draw from.

Disappointing. It makes for easy comedy, and laughter is a good thing.
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Dude
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Posted - 09/09/2008 :  06:12:51   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Dude a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Zeked said:
"Fascist corporatism at its' finest. The government created and grew F&F, and socialized the entire industry of financing home purchases. Now the taxpayers are being tapped to bail them out. 200 Billion now, 300 Billion next year, and it might never end."
(bolding mine)

Either you don't know what socialism is, or you don't know what socialism is....

Those two entities were public, and publicly traded, companies.

Also, it was the DEREGULATION (lessening of government oversight) that led to the current situation where the US government is now taking them over.


Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson

"god :: the last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument." - G. Carlin

Hope, n.
The handmaiden of desperation; the opiate of despair; the illegible signpost on the road to perdition. ~~ da filth
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filthy
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Posted - 09/09/2008 :  06:50:39   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
[Grammer Nazi] Am I the only one who caught the misspelling in this picture?

[/Grammer Nazi]




"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)

"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres


"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude

Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,

and Crypto-Communist!

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BigPapaSmurf
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Posted - 09/09/2008 :  07:04:56   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send BigPapaSmurf a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by filthy

[Grammer Nazi] Am I the only one who caught the misspelling in this picture?
[/Grammer Nazi]


Can't...help...it(grunts)
[Spelling Nazi]
Grammer = Grammar
[/spelling Nazi]

[Grammar Nazi]
Bad spelling is not technically bad grammar
[/Grammar Nazi]

"...things I have neither seen nor experienced nor heard tell of from anybody else; things, what is more, that do not in fact exist and could not ever exist at all. So my readers must not believe a word I say." -Lucian on his book True History

"...They accept such things on faith alone, without any evidence. So if a fraudulent and cunning person who knows how to take advantage of a situation comes among them, he can make himself rich in a short time." -Lucian critical of early Christians c.166 AD From his book, De Morte Peregrini
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Simon
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Posted - 09/09/2008 :  07:58:52   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Simon a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by filthy

[Grammer Nazi] Am I the only one who caught the misspelling in this picture?
[/Grammer Nazi]



Nah; I just thought the funny was the reason the picture had been included...


Look again at that dot. That's here. That's home. That's us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every "superstar," every "supreme leader," every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there – on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam.
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