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astropin
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Originally posted by BigPapaSmurf
He only proclaimed it his biggest blunder because he didnt want that to be the correct answer, in that case his bias prevented him from seeing that he was in fact thinking in the right direction. He was only incorrect in that he thought the dark energy force was equal to gravity, had he tried examinie it further he would have seen that it is in fact greater than gravity...
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Greater in the sense that there is more of it? Or greater in the sense that it is a stronger force? Or both? |
I would rather face a cold reality than delude myself with comforting fantasies.
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BigPapaSmurf
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 10/02/2008 : 12:20:45 [Permalink]
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| Right he was an idealist, wanting a harmonius universe. He wanted their to be a God equation, as many modern physicists still do. An expanding universe was a dirty unstructured universe and he wanted nothing to do with it...or so he told me. |
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calebjones1234
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Posted - 10/02/2008 : 20:27:36 [Permalink]
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Was Einstein right or wrong about his assertion of "greatest blunder", and how does your answer relate to Dark matter and Dark energy?
Come on kids, at least present that you understand what you are writing about.
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Dave W.
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Posted - 10/02/2008 : 20:44:48 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by calebjones1234
Come on kids, at least present that you understand what you are writing about. |
There goes another irony meter. Sheesh. |
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Cuneiformist
The Imperfectionist
USA
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Posted - 10/02/2008 : 20:50:11 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dave W.
Originally posted by calebjones1234
Come on kids, at least present that you understand what you are writing about. |
There goes another irony meter. Sheesh.
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Lay off, Dave-- calebjones a maverick. He has an answer for our problems in understanding gravity. Just you wait. |
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Dave W.
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Posted - 10/02/2008 : 21:02:36 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Cuneiformist
Lay off, Dave-- calebjones a maverick. |
Doesn't make any difference to me unless he's a member of a team of mavericks. Lone mavericks aren't nearly independent enough for me anymore.| He has an answer for our problems in understanding gravity. Just you wait. |
I'll pay for his ticket to Stockholm as soon as I hear his name announced. |
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calebjones1234
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Posted - 10/02/2008 : 21:23:20 [Permalink]
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Nothing that shows how Dark matter and Dark energy are anything different than say... Invisible Pink Elephants?
Claiming fact without evidence is lazy thinking.
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| Edited by - calebjones1234 on 10/02/2008 21:23:55 |
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Dr. Mabuse
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Posted - 10/02/2008 : 22:51:35 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by calebjones1234
Was Einstein right or wrong about his assertion of "greatest blunder", |
You are presenting a false dichotomy, because when Einstein presented the cosmological constant, he made it with insufficient knowledge. When red shift was discovered and he called the cosmological constant his greatest blunder, he was still speaking from a (new) position of ignorance of certain aspects of cosmos.
So the answer to this part of your question is: He was right about calling his cosmological constant his biggest blunder, but it wasn't a blunder for the reason he thought it was.
and how does your answer relate to Dark matter and Dark energy?
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Dark matter and dark energy are expressions for concepts that describe the mass and energy that appears to be "missing" in the universe. With missing, I mean mass and energy that can be inferred to be in the universe, but which we haven't been able to detect yet. Both this undetected mass and undetected energy is affecting value of the cosmological constant, something that Einstein couldn't foresee. |
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Dave W.
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Posted - 10/03/2008 : 07:23:35 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by calebjones1234
Nothing that shows how Dark matter and Dark energy are anything different than say... Invisible Pink Elephants? |
Nothing you've written displays the understanding that the scientists say that they don't know what it is.| Claiming fact without evidence is lazy thinking. |
Making accusations of "shenanegans" on the basis of your own lazy thinking is better, you think? |
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Cuneiformist
The Imperfectionist
USA
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Posted - 10/03/2008 : 07:31:01 [Permalink]
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| So calebjones1234, you think that our understanding of gravity is fundamentally wrong? |
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What the? Earth is special again
