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Simon
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Posted - 10/03/2008 :  10:37:32  Show Profile Send Simon a Private Message  Reply with Quote
As seen here.

Look again at that dot. That's here. That's home. That's us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every "superstar," every "supreme leader," every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there – on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam.
Carl Sagan - 1996

Kil
Evil Skeptic

USA
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Posted - 10/03/2008 :  15:58:09   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Kil's Homepage  Send Kil an AOL message  Send Kil a Yahoo! Message Send Kil a Private Message  Reply with Quote
If you look at this:

RealClearPolitics Electoral College

And then this battleground state:

Colorado: McCain vs. Obama

You see how dire this is getting for McCain. Naturally, things can change. But if the trend continues, McPalin is toast…

Uncertainty may make you uncomfortable. Certainty makes you ridiculous.

Why not question something for a change?

Genetic Literacy Project
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calebjones1234
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Posted - 10/03/2008 :  16:14:45   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send calebjones1234 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
There is a large Muslim population is Michigan.
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Dave W.
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Posted - 10/03/2008 :  16:58:14   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by calebjones1234

There is a large Muslim population is Michigan.
And?

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Kil
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Posted - 10/03/2008 :  16:58:57   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Kil's Homepage  Send Kil an AOL message  Send Kil a Yahoo! Message Send Kil a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by calebjones1234

There is a large Muslim population is Michigan.
What's your point? And be careful. It better be a good one.

Uncertainty may make you uncomfortable. Certainty makes you ridiculous.

Why not question something for a change?

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Ricky
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Posted - 10/03/2008 :  17:05:04   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Ricky an AOL message Send Ricky a Private Message  Reply with Quote
2% is large?

Why continue? Because we must. Because we have the call. Because it is nobler to fight for rationality without winning than to give up in the face of continued defeats. Because whatever true progress humanity makes is through the rationality of the occasional individual and because any one individual we may win for the cause may do more for humanity than a hundred thousand who hug their superstitions to their breast.
- Isaac Asimov
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Randy
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Posted - 10/03/2008 :  17:32:24   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Randy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Kil

Originally posted by calebjones1234

There is a large Muslim population is Michigan.
What's your point? And be careful. It better be a good one.



I'm going to second guess him to say he's basing that goofy comment entirely on this e-tripe, or the like, circling around the lazy-thinker circuit...

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/muslim.asp

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/church.asp

"We are all connected; to each other biologically, to the earth chemically, to the rest of the universe atomically."

"So you're made of detritus [from exploded stars]. Get over it. Or better yet, celebrate it. After all, what nobler thought can one cherish than that the universe lives within us all?"
-Neil DeGrasse Tyson
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calebjones1234
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Posted - 10/03/2008 :  17:48:01   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send calebjones1234 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The point is not as to Obama's religion, it is the appearance of what religion he may be hiding.


From outward appearances, he has been over the last 20 years a Black Liberation Christian.

This does not mean that a great many people do not believe him Muslim in disguise, and certainly a great many Muslim voters would identify with voting for a potential friend.

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calebjones1234
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Posted - 10/03/2008 :  17:51:55   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send calebjones1234 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Ricky

2% is large?



It's Enough

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HalfMooner
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Posted - 10/03/2008 :  18:04:26   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I think it's starting to look like there'll be a landslide for Obama next month. Must be that everyone's converting to Islam, eh, nocojones?


Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
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calebjones1234
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Posted - 10/03/2008 :  18:31:55   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send calebjones1234 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by HalfMooner

I think it's starting to look like there'll be a landslide for Obama next month. Must be that everyone's converting to Islam, eh, nocojones?





You have your insult wrong.

I did not and would not now vote for Bush.


The funny thing is you are so caught up in the theater that is provided for you that you can not see that Bush and Clinton moved the nation in the exact same direction. Your emotional ties to your chosen party will not allow you to see this, but if you want to be honest, look at the results from the last two 8 year terms. Find the distinct difference.
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HalfMooner
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Posted - 10/03/2008 :  19:48:34   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by calebjones1234

You have your insult wrong.

I did not and would not now vote for Bush.
Last time I checked, Bush wasn't on the ballot.


Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
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Cuneiformist
The Imperfectionist

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Posted - 10/03/2008 :  20:12:55   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Cuneiformist a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by calebjones1234
The funny thing is you are so caught up in the theater that is provided for you that you can not see that Bush and Clinton moved the nation in the exact same direction. Your emotional ties to your chosen party will not allow you to see this, but if you want to be honest, look at the results from the last two 8 year terms. Find the distinct difference.
You are so right. Why do you think that is????????
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Dude
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Posted - 10/03/2008 :  21:31:54   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Dude a Private Message  Reply with Quote
tardjones said:
This does not mean that a great many people do not believe him Muslim in disguise

A great many people believe the earth is 6000 years old, a great many people think Iraq had WMD, a great many people think Iraq is tied to 9/11, a great many people think 9/11 was an inside job.

They, as are those who think Obama is a Muslim, are retarded.


Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson

"god :: the last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument." - G. Carlin

Hope, n.
The handmaiden of desperation; the opiate of despair; the illegible signpost on the road to perdition. ~~ da filth
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Dave W.
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Posted - 10/03/2008 :  22:40:56   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by calebjones1234

...look at the results from the last two 8 year terms. Find the distinct difference.
Clinton generated a budget surplus, while Bush has emphasized spending-spending-spending.

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HalfMooner
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Posted - 10/04/2008 :  00:35:31   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
In another sign of how little grip she has on the reality thing, Sarah Palin disagrees with John McCain, and wants to campaign in Michigan anyway, despite her running mate's decision to retreat from the state.
In an interview with Fox News Friday the Republican vice presidential candidate appeared to be disappointed with the decision and said she still wants to take a stab at wining the state that hasn't voted for a Republican presidential candidate in two decades.

She also said she made her disagreement known to top campaign officials:

"I fired a quick e-mail and said, 'oh, come on! Do we have to call it there?' she said. " Todd and I would [be] happy to get to Michigan and walk through those plants [with] car manufacturers.

[My emphasis.]
What, Sarah? You want to walk through those empty auto plants with the manufacturers, not with unemployed "Joe Six-Pack" (with whom you, with such offensive condescension, identified yourself on Thursday)???

Maybe Palin doesn't know it, but there are a lot more auto workers than there are car manufacturers in Michigan. Getting the executive votes just ain't going to cut it.

Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
Here's a link to Moonscape News, and one to its Archive.
Edited by - HalfMooner on 10/04/2008 01:05:41
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