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Original_Intent
SFN Regular
USA
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 Posted - 10/20/2008 : 06:22:38 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dave W.
Originally posted by Original_Intent
First.. who killed Cartman (avatar)? |
Not grokking you here. |
My Avatar is MIA! Gonna have to dig it up.... Or change it....
Second.. Once again Dave.... You take my argument, and show me that the argument is just plain being argued from the wrong point of view.... Why do we need an office for faith-based initiatives? They should be treated no differently then any other charity, and not discriminated against. |
Well, you'll have to ask Bush why we need an OFBI. I seem to remember a lot of dissent at the time, which Bush ignored. |
I don't know why we needed one, or why neither candidate will do away with it.
| To head-off any arguments on how they spend the money: If they want the money, they need to spend the money in accordance with federal laws. As far as hiring practices (which come to mind).. regardless of whether they take the money, they need to be non-discriminatory. |
But the anti-discrimination laws already exempt religious groups and organizations. I sure don't think a Catholic church should be forced to hire an atheist janitor (for example), just like I don't think a humanist group should be forced to hire a evangelical as treasurer (for another example). People create religious groups in order to co-mingle with their fellow religionists, not because they're interested in equal opportunity employment. |
My view on these kinds of hiring practices:
If a church wants to hire, and opens the spot up to it's membership first, then I see no problem with it. If, however, they go outside of their membership... I do not think they should be permitted to discriminate in any way beyond qualifications. Not saying my view is the correct view... but I despise discrimination.
| Dave: Am I to read your statement that because Jefferson had a non-religious view of Christianity that it makes it ok? Please explain. |
No, I was just pointing out that Jefferson wasn't quite as much a lunatic as your average fundamentalist, at least when it came to religion. Whether the end result was "ok" or not I don't know. I'd have to read the thing.
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Jefferson was one interesting/crazy SOB. I think the jury should still be out on whether he was a lunatic or not.
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The Circus of Carnage... because you should be able to deal with politicians like you do pissant noobs. |
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