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Dave W.
Info Junkie

USA
26020 Posts

Posted - 12/16/2008 :  23:28:53  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
There's a handy checklist available.

Turns out I'm pretty damn mild, as atheists go. I can only claim seven of the 50 items, although I'll be doing an 8th in a couple weeks.

- Dave W. (Private Msg, EMail)
Evidently, I rock!
Why not question something for a change?
Visit Dave's Psoriasis Info, too.

Ricky
SFN Die Hard

USA
4907 Posts

Posted - 12/17/2008 :  00:39:18   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Ricky an AOL message Send Ricky a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Are we considered as an atheist organization? I donated for Kil's trip to TAM...

I got a total of 18:

4, 9, 10, 11, 13, 15, 16, 19, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34 (I think...), 35, 37, 38, 43, 49.

Why continue? Because we must. Because we have the call. Because it is nobler to fight for rationality without winning than to give up in the face of continued defeats. Because whatever true progress humanity makes is through the rationality of the occasional individual and because any one individual we may win for the cause may do more for humanity than a hundred thousand who hug their superstitions to their breast.
- Isaac Asimov
Edited by - Ricky on 12/17/2008 00:46:25
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filthy
SFN Die Hard

USA
14408 Posts

Posted - 12/17/2008 :  03:21:54   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I managed somewhere around 12 -- lost track of it, so even that's a maybe.

This looks to me less like an atheist polling than a search for the obsessed. Most of the questions are about stuff that I really don't care much nor think much about. Indeed, a lower score might be a pretty good sign of sanity.




"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)

"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres


"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude

Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,

and Crypto-Communist!

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Dr. Mabuse
Septic Fiend

Sweden
9687 Posts

Posted - 12/17/2008 :  07:56:39   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Dr. Mabuse an ICQ Message Send Dr. Mabuse a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I got 11, though one point may be disqualified: When I invited mormons for the purpose of arguing with them, I was still a Pentecostal...

Dr. Mabuse - "When the going gets tough, the tough get Duct-tape..."
Dr. Mabuse whisper.mp3

"Equivocation is not just a job, for a creationist it's a way of life..." Dr. Mabuse

Support American Troops in Iraq:
Send them unarmed civilians for target practice..
Collateralmurder.
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Kil
Evil Skeptic

USA
13476 Posts

Posted - 12/17/2008 :  09:05:23   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Kil's Homepage  Send Kil an AOL message  Send Kil a Yahoo! Message Send Kil a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I got 18. And I identify as agnostic/atheist.

Uncertainty may make you uncomfortable. Certainty makes you ridiculous.

Why not question something for a change?

Genetic Literacy Project
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Gorgo
SFN Die Hard

USA
5310 Posts

Posted - 12/17/2008 :  10:25:52   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Gorgo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Somewhere around 16 or so. They forgot about atheist podcasts.

(edited to say, atheist radio and atheist TV as well)

I know the rent is in arrears
The dog has not been fed in years
It's even worse than it appears
But it's alright-
Jerry Garcia
Robert Hunter



Edited by - Gorgo on 12/17/2008 10:31:01
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moakley
SFN Regular

USA
1888 Posts

Posted - 12/17/2008 :  11:09:57   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send moakley a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I had 10, but am a little soft on 3.

14. I have a lot of Dawkin's books, but do not have a shelf dedicated to them.
16. Not in the street, but when they come to my door I'll debate religion.
33. Never the TV, but the radio sure. 91.1 Gafney, SC

Life is good

Philosophy is questions that may never be answered. Religion is answers that may never be questioned. -Anonymous
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dglas
Skeptic Friend

Canada
397 Posts

Posted - 12/17/2008 :  14:42:22   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send dglas a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hehehe. Scored a 9 or so. They call those things hardcore?

I've had the "but it's just a get together "discussion" about 500 times since I stopped celebrating holidays about 25+ years ago. Even that, as depressing as it is, is only trivia.

I've lost the only woman I ever loved because she couldn't understand the idea of a secular "marriage" ceremony and that I couldn't bear to have the priests having any claim to any part of our relationship.

...and they ask about keeping a stash of bumper stickers...

Don't talk to me about hardcore atheism.

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- dglas (In the hell of 1000 unresolved subplots...)
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The Presupposition of Intrinsic Evil
+ A Self-Justificatory Framework
= The "Heart of Darkness"
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Siberia
SFN Addict

Brazil
2322 Posts

Posted - 12/18/2008 :  11:29:10   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Siberia's Homepage  Send Siberia an AOL message  Send Siberia a Yahoo! Message Send Siberia a Private Message  Reply with Quote
1. no
2. no, live in different country
3. check
4. check
5. nah
6. what?
7. have Christian mother so doesn't count
8. lolno
9. yes - family's in denial
10. in Brazil? Find me one and I'll be there
11. not really
12. nope, I'm single
13. if I had, I might
14. nah. I have one for Isaac Asimov, though.
15. not many of my friends who know I'm an atheist are theists themselves; those who are are OK with my atheism
16. never happened, but bring it on!
17. pfft no
18. no money for that
19. nah, handicap makes stuff like that difficult
20. no money for airplane tickets
21. aye
22. in Brazil?
23. not yet
24. yup, I have - bones in special
25. yes
26. no
27. I don't even have a job to lose
28. not really, but it deepened
29-32 don't apply; 32 doesn't because my arthritic hands don't work that way
33. no, but laughed out loud when mother was watching a particularly vitriolic pastor. And I sniggered all through my sister's wedding.
34. alas no
35. yup
36. no funerals thus far, ever
37. no money
38. no
39. nope
40. no
41. would, but no
42. they don't go door-to-door in my country
43. sheesh no
44. no
45. nah
46. different country & no
47. I usually tell them I was born under the constellation of Andromeda according to NASA's site, since it was the brightest in the sky the night I was born. Always baffles them.
48. paranoia is your friend? Nah.
49. yup
50. I'm dragged to presbyterian church weekly, so no. I don't mind it. The music is good, if repetitive, and the pastor is often nice and speaks good things, if you clip out the religious stuff [;p]

"Why are you afraid of something you're not even sure exists?"
- The Kovenant, Via Negativa

"People who don't like their beliefs being laughed at shouldn't have such funny beliefs."
-- unknown
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Simon
SFN Regular

USA
1992 Posts

Posted - 12/18/2008 :  13:53:45   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Simon a Private Message  Reply with Quote
1. Participated in the Blasphemy Challenge. I wrote a song for it, but with no equip to make videos never actually uploaded it.
Nope, what the point?

2. Met at least one of the “Four Horsemen” (Richard Dawkins, Daniel Dennett, Christopher Hitchens, Sam Harris) in person. I got my picture taken with Dawkins at an atheist conference. I was disappointed because he hardly seemed interested.
Nope. Not yet. But they are all on the list of 'people I'd like to meet'. But then again, the list is quite long and include a bunch of people, not many of them atheists

3. Created an atheist blog. (Contact me and ask for the link.)
Nope, not created any blog on any subject.

4. Used the Flying Spaghetti Monster in a religious debate with someone.
I did actually.

5. Gotten offended when someone called you an agnostic.
Nope; I used to identify myself as such but then my position evolved. Mostly out of solidarity for my fellow atheists, if the guy in front of me would be offended by my being atheist, I might as well offend him anyway. Now, I define myself as 'Godless'.

6. Been unable to watch Growing Pains reruns because of Kirk Cameron.
Yop. But then again, I also do it with Mel Gibson (for his anti-semistism) and Travolta-Cruise (for the scientology).

7. Own more Bibles than most Christians you know.
Nope, not a single one (Internet provides) but I have read it (and re-read several passages many times) and read other religious text, such as part of the Torah and the Quran.

8. Have at least one Bible with your personal annotations regarding contradictions, disturbing parts, etc.
No, but I always keept the Skeptic annotated Bible handy.

9. Have come out as an atheist to your family.
Yes.

10. Attended a campus or off-campus atheist gathering.
As a matter of fact, I do.

11. Are a member of an organized atheist/Humanist/etc. organization.
Indeed

12. Had a Humanist wedding ceremony. (Does getting married in a quickie chapel count?)
Still single

13. Donated money to an atheist organization.
Not yet, but it'll come up, I'm sure

14. Have a bookshelf dedicated solely to Richard Dawkins.
No; but I try to keep my bookshelf inflation under control.

15. Lost the friendship of someone you know because of your non-theism.
No.

16. Tried to argue or have a discussion with someone who stopped you on the street to proselytize.
Not yet; but next time one of these stop by the campus.

17. Hid your atheist beliefs on a first date because you didn't want to scare him/her away.
No; never will. What'd be the point. It'll only make the matter worse when the subject comes up later.

18. Own a stockpile of atheist paraphernalia (bumper stickers, buttons, shirts, etc).
No... But my association is not selling any paraphernalia I know off. I'll probably invest when I come to the Atlanta meeting of the AAFTA.

19. Attended a protest that involved religion.
No, never had the opportunity.

20. Attended an atheist conference.
No, but it's in the plan

21. Subscribe to Pat Condell's YouTube channel.
I do

22. Started an atheist group in your area or school.
Nope; there already was one.

23. Successfully “de-converted” someone to atheism.
Nope, not as far as I know

24. Have already made plans to donate your body to science after you die. (Organ donor precludes this.)
I'll donate my body to medicine. I'd rather my organs to save people's life than serve to train physicians.

25. Told someone you are an atheist just to see their reaction?
Nope; I tell them that I am because I am...

26. Had to think twice before screaming “Oh God!” during sex. Or you said something else in its place.
I am not a screamer. At most I

Look again at that dot. That's here. That's home. That's us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every "superstar," every "supreme leader," every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there – on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam.
Carl Sagan - 1996
Edited by - Simon on 12/18/2008 15:21:02
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Trish
SFN Addict

USA
2102 Posts

Posted - 12/18/2008 :  15:00:17   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Trish a Private Message  Reply with Quote
OK I scored a ten. Only because I've been interviewed about being an atheist and a former Marine. I spoke at a committee meeting to prevent having 'In God We Trust' posters placed in all public offices. The folks who wanted this conveniently sold the proper sized framed poster for $15 each. Well I couldn't let 'Focus on the Family' get public tax dollars.

...no one has ever found a 4.5 billion year old stone artifact (at the right geological stratum) with the words "Made by God."
No Sense of Obligation by Matt Young

"Say what you will about the sweet miracle of unquestioning faith. I consider the capacity for it terrifying and vile!"
Mother Night by Kurt Vonnegut, Jr.

They (Women Marines) don't have a nickname, and they don't need one. They get their basic training in a Marine atmosphere, at a Marine Post. They inherit the traditions of the Marines. They are Marines.
LtGen Thomas Holcomb, USMC
Commandant of the Marine Corps, 1943
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Kil
Evil Skeptic

USA
13476 Posts

Posted - 12/18/2008 :  15:08:59   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Kil's Homepage  Send Kil an AOL message  Send Kil a Yahoo! Message Send Kil a Private Message  Reply with Quote
My 18 has much to do with belonging to the CFI, subscriptions, going to TAM events and meeting people like Christopher Hitchens. Do this long enough and it starts to add up. Imagine if I were hardcore about my atheism! Still, 18 out of fifty doesn't really seem like much, which works for me.

Uncertainty may make you uncomfortable. Certainty makes you ridiculous.

Why not question something for a change?

Genetic Literacy Project
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