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the_ignored
SFN Addict
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 Posted - 03/27/2009 : 11:09:27
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By a moderate christian, first found on the Bad Astronomer's blog.
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>From: enuffenuff@fastmail.fm
(excerpt follows):
> I'm looking to teach these two bastards a lesson they'll never forget.
> Personal visit by mates of mine. No violence, just a wee little chat.
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> **** has also committed more crimes than you can count with his
> incitement of hatred against a religion. That law came in about 2007
> much to ****'s ignorance. That is fact and his writing will become well
> know as well as him becoming a publicly known icon of hatred.
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> Good luck with that fuckwit. And Reynold, fucking run, and don't stop.
> Disappear would be best as it was you who dared to attack me on my
> illness knowing nothing of the cause. You disgust me and you are top of
> the list boy. Again, no violence. Just regular reminders of who's there
> and visits to see you are behaving. Nothing scary in reality. But I'd
> still disappear if I was you.
What brought that on? this. Original posting here.
Another example of this guy's lunacy here. |
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chaloobi
SFN Regular
1620 Posts |
Posted - 03/27/2009 : 11:23:03 [Permalink]
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| This guy's a faithless blasphemer and he's going to burn in hell for his unrepentant sinning. |
-Chaloobi
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H. Humbert
SFN Die Hard
USA
4574 Posts |
Posted - 03/27/2009 : 15:53:20 [Permalink]
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Phil wrote: I don't hate Christians, nor do I ever say that people cannot believe whatever they want. You can believe what you want, including the grossly ridiculous idea that the Earth is 6000 years old. That's your right.
But that right stops when you try to make laws based on your belief, and when you try to tell an entire country how your religion should be the only thing taught in science class, and when your belief system affects people's health, welfare, and well-being. |
But this is the sort of language that plays straight into the hands of those promoting "teach the controversy." Some argue that they have to no desire to teach creationism to the exclusion of evolution. They want to present both side and let people make up their own minds. It's the evolutionists, they argue, who make laws based on their belief and who try to dictate that their "religion" of evolution should be the only thing taught in science class.
So I think Phil just gets it wrong here. The point isn't that people don't have a right to insist that their religion should be the only thing taught in schools, it's that people never have a right to teach their religion in public schools. At all. Ever. Not even a little bit. And if you are a religious person who finds the theory of evolution offensive, that really is tough shit. You don't get to have a voice in what is taught in science classrooms. Your opinion does not matter. You don't have to believe what you are taught, as Phil does point out. But your kids do have to learn it. That or you send your kids to a private school or home school. Those are the available options.
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"A man is his own easiest dupe, for what he wishes to be true he generally believes to be true." --Demosthenes
"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself - and you are the easiest person to fool." --Richard P. Feynman
"Face facts with dignity." --found inside a fortune cookie |
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Dave W.
Info Junkie
USA
26020 Posts |
Posted - 03/27/2009 : 17:22:45 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by H. Humbert
Phil wrote: | I don't hate Christians, nor do I ever say that people cannot believe whatever they want. You can believe what you want, including the grossly ridiculous idea that the Earth is 6000 years old. That's your right. |
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If (if) we have a duty to believe according to the evidence, then no, believing whatever a person wants to is not their right. It is the opposite of their obligation to society. |
- Dave W. (Private Msg, EMail)
Evidently, I rock!
Why not question something for a change?
Visit Dave's Psoriasis Info, too. |
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
15831 Posts |
Posted - 03/27/2009 : 17:26:41 [Permalink]
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He's certainly made a case that Creationism is an embarrassment that's bad for religion, but no case that it's bad religion. Creationism is very good religion, unfortunately.
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“Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
Here's a link to Moonscape News, and one to its Archive. |
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On fire for Christ
SFN Regular
Norway
1273 Posts |
Posted - 04/03/2009 : 13:02:41 [Permalink]
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| yes the moderate christians are practicing the bad religion. |
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
USA
14408 Posts |
 Posted - 04/03/2009 : 13:50:08 [Permalink]
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Why pick on creationists? It's all a philosophical crock. The only difference is in the degree of their efforts to envelope the rest of society into whatever cult-beliefs they themselves espouse.
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
and Crypto-Communist! 
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Video showing how creationism is bad religion
