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Dave W.
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H. Humbert
SFN Die Hard
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 Posted - 04/18/2009 : 22:08:20 [Permalink]
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Right article in the title, and the link is right. Wrong article in the body text, though. I suspect a copy-and-paste went afoul somewhere.
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"A man is his own easiest dupe, for what he wishes to be true he generally believes to be true." --Demosthenes
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Dave W.
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Posted - 04/18/2009 : 22:18:06 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by H. Humbert
Right article in the title, and the link is right. Wrong article in the body text, though. I suspect a copy-and-paste went afoul somewhere. |
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Simon
SFN Regular
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Posted - 04/19/2009 : 10:26:54 [Permalink]
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| Thanks for taking care of that Dave. |
Look again at that dot. That's here. That's home. That's us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every "superstar," every "supreme leader," every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there – on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam.
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Kil
Evil Skeptic
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Posted - 04/19/2009 : 10:46:40 [Permalink]
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| I posted a link to your article on the Skepticality skepticamp episode thread. Hope you don't mind. |
Uncertainty may make you uncomfortable. Certainty makes you ridiculous.
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Simon
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Posted - 04/19/2009 : 17:47:13 [Permalink]
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| 'f course not. Albeit I am a bit self-conscious, but I guess I should stand by what I have (poorly) written... |
Look again at that dot. That's here. That's home. That's us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every "superstar," every "supreme leader," every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there – on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam.
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Dr. Mabuse
Septic Fiend
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Posted - 04/20/2009 : 03:53:07 [Permalink]
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I think you did great, Simon!
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Boron10
Religion Moderator
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Posted - 04/20/2009 : 07:51:48 [Permalink]
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Good write-up, Simon! I have had frequent cause to use that Princess Bride quote at work, and I especially liked this line from your article:| I am not sure what that is supposed to mean but am ready to get indignant at the scientific establishment for ignoring this obvious solution to the energy crisis. |
Know of any of those around San Diego? Were there any small children there, or was it more of an adult-only kind of event? |
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Kil
Evil Skeptic
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Posted - 04/20/2009 : 08:30:58 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Boron10
Know of any of those around San Diego? Were there any small children there, or was it more of an adult-only kind of event?
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Kil
Evil Skeptic
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Posted - 04/22/2009 : 07:55:21 [Permalink]
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Simon, from the article:
So, it was a really enjoyable weekend and an experience. One I will do my best to try to renew in the future, at TAM and Dragon*Con for example, and, of course, at the second Atlanta SkeptiCamp. |
So, Simon, is there a chance that you will be going to TAM7?
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Simon
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Posted - 04/22/2009 : 08:58:07 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Boron10
Good write-up, Simon! I have had frequent cause to use that Princess Bride quote at work, and I especially liked this line from your article:| I am not sure what that is supposed to mean but am ready to get indignant at the scientific establishment for ignoring this obvious solution to the energy crisis. |
Know of any of those around San Diego? Were there any small children there, or was it more of an adult-only kind of event?
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Thanks. I loved Andrew's use of the Princess Bride quote, as I mentioned, it was a eureka moment, followed by a "why the hell didn't I think about it myself" moment.
(Un)fortunately, no, they were no kids.
On one hand, certainly, it's never too early to teach kids about critical thinking, after all, they are no shortage of brainwash Jesus camps targeting them. It's might be a good idea to try to equip them with the tools to defend themselves.
On the other hand... It was around 10 hours of sitting down, listening to seminars. Not something child friendly.
But it would indeed be a good idea to try to organize child oriented activities. I heard on the Skeptic zones that such things existed...
Originally posted by Kil
Simon, from the article:
So, it was a really enjoyable weekend and an experience. One I will do my best to try to renew in the future, at TAM and Dragon*Con for example, and, of course, at the second Atlanta SkeptiCamp. |
So, Simon, is there a chance that you will be going to TAM7?
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I am thinking about it, in fact. I'd seriously love to. But money, money is a matter.
Next year, I will try my best to apply for the scholarship they offer but this year, I will probably not be able to afford it... |
Look again at that dot. That's here. That's home. That's us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every "superstar," every "supreme leader," every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there – on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam.
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HalfMooner
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Posted - 04/22/2009 : 11:36:21 [Permalink]
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I would hope (and also expect this to be the case) that children attending any kind of skeptic or humanist camp would be exposed to science and critical thinking skills, but left to draw their own conclusions using those skills. Help them think clearly. If they then want to believe in Jesus or the Tooth Fairy, that's their free choice.
In other words, the direct opposite of the regimentation, propaganda, and brainwashing of Jesus Camps.
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Simon
SFN Regular
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Posted - 04/22/2009 : 14:55:17 [Permalink]
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Yep.
They should do some Scooby-Do themed role-playing.
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Look again at that dot. That's here. That's home. That's us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every "superstar," every "supreme leader," every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there – on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam.
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SkeptiCamp Atlanta: A Personal Overview
