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the_ignored
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Posted - 08/07/2009 :  08:09:35  Show Profile Send the_ignored a Private Message  Reply with Quote
This guy is apparently giving a seminar to a town very close to where I grew up.

Yeesh! What's even worse, we know each other. Very well.

It's been years, so he'd probably doesn't know what my views are now on what he "teaches". I suspect he'd not like them.


Gezzus, just look at his links page.



Nothing else to say, really. Just venting.


>From: enuffenuff@fastmail.fm
(excerpt follows):
> I'm looking to teach these two bastards a lesson they'll never forget.
> Personal visit by mates of mine. No violence, just a wee little chat.
>
> **** has also committed more crimes than you can count with his
> incitement of hatred against a religion. That law came in about 2007
> much to ****'s ignorance. That is fact and his writing will become well
> know as well as him becoming a publicly known icon of hatred.
>
> Good luck with that fuckwit. And Reynold, fucking run, and don't stop.
> Disappear would be best as it was you who dared to attack me on my
> illness knowing nothing of the cause. You disgust me and you are top of
> the list boy. Again, no violence. Just regular reminders of who's there
> and visits to see you are behaving. Nothing scary in reality. But I'd
> still disappear if I was you.

What brought that on? this. Original posting here.

Another example of this guy's lunacy here.

Edited by - the_ignored on 08/07/2009 08:14:23

Kil
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Posted - 08/07/2009 :  09:12:17   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Kil's Homepage  Send Kil an AOL message  Send Kil a Yahoo! Message Send Kil a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by the_ignored

This guy is apparently giving a seminar to a town very close to where I grew up.

Yeesh! What's even worse, we know each other. Very well.

It's been years, so he'd probably doesn't know what my views are now on what he "teaches". I suspect he'd not like them.


Gezzus, just look at his links page.



Nothing else to say, really. Just venting.



If you know him, perhaps he will take your call. Invite him to SFN for a structured written debate. Tell him that he can choose the subject and we will make sure that before he commits, the terms of the debate will be agreeable to both parties. We will be happy to negotiate the terms of the debate with him.

It's important to remind him that so far, no creationist has done this. It's our feeling that creationists are loath to get into a debate on a level playing field, where fact checking can actually be done. Live debates are more of a contest of debating skills, and not of any real value from a scientific or even a religious point of view. But a written debate allows time for presenting the case backed up by actual evidence rather than pithy sound bites.

Save any correspondence to him.

Uncertainty may make you uncomfortable. Certainty makes you ridiculous.

Why not question something for a change?

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filthy
SFN Die Hard

USA
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Posted - 08/07/2009 :  11:16:15   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Oh, what a beautiful city
Oh, what a beautiful city
Oh, what a beautiful city
Twelve gates to the city, hallelujah

And it's oh, what a beautiful
Oh
Oh Lord, what a beautiful city
Twelve gates to the city, hallelujah

There's three gates in the East
There's three gates in the West
There's three gates in the North
There's three gates in the South
That makes twelve gates to
the city, hallelujah


And O, what a beautiful debate that would be!

And O, I'll bet a dollar he won't do it unless he's actually dumb enough to believe he can win it. I give Kent Hovind's reactions to written debates as reference.
Kent Hovind Refuses to Debate!!

by Dave Thomas

Well-known creationist Kent Hovind touts his unsatisfied $250,000 challenge to anyone who can "prove" evolution as evidence for creationism. The challenge is rigged, of course. For example, since the Big Bang is part of evolution, Hovind argues, you will have to produce an actual Big Bang to get the award. Hovind also tours the country preaching creationism to large crowds, and is constantly challenging "evolutionists" to debate at these evangelism sessions.

Kent Hovind has been challenged to a REAL debate - a scientific debate - in the pages of this newsletter, and on the World Wide Web. Hovind has refused this debate. Details of this exchange follow.

Hovind knew he'd be flayed alive in such a format because he'd be denied his favorite tactic of the "Gish Gallop", thus he'd be unable to perform to an applauding audience. He squirmed away, wisely, I think, from any sort of challenge where any knowledgeable high school senior could take him apart like a clogged carburetor.

But whaddahell, it's worth a try.




"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)

"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres


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Dude
SFN Die Hard

USA
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Posted - 08/07/2009 :  22:07:59   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Dude a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The owner of Wendy's challenged Hovind to a debate? Who knew?


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-- Thomas Jefferson

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The handmaiden of desperation; the opiate of despair; the illegible signpost on the road to perdition. ~~ da filth
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