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Posted - 12/09/2009 :  16:38:20  Show Profile Send the_ignored a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Now we can finally see what kind of PhD work the man put availablie from "", from PZ Myers site.

(excerpt follows):
> I'm looking to teach these two bastards a lesson they'll never forget.
> Personal visit by mates of mine. No violence, just a wee little chat.
> **** has also committed more crimes than you can count with his
> incitement of hatred against a religion. That law came in about 2007
> much to ****'s ignorance. That is fact and his writing will become well
> know as well as him becoming a publicly known icon of hatred.
> Good luck with that fuckwit. And Reynold, fucking run, and don't stop.
> Disappear would be best as it was you who dared to attack me on my
> illness knowing nothing of the cause. You disgust me and you are top of
> the list boy. Again, no violence. Just regular reminders of who's there
> and visits to see you are behaving. Nothing scary in reality. But I'd
> still disappear if I was you.

What brought that on? this. Original posting here.

Another example of this guy's lunacy here.

Edited by - the_ignored on 12/09/2009 16:42:32

Evil Skeptic

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Posted - 12/09/2009 :  17:15:28   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Kil's Homepage  Send Kil an AOL message  Send Kil a Yahoo! Message Send Kil a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Why is it that only those who buy PhD's from diploma mills put those letters after their name on the books that they write?

Uncertainty may make you uncomfortable. Certainty makes you ridiculous.

Why not question something for a change?

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Posted - 12/09/2009 :  17:58:56   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send sailingsoul a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Kil

Why is it that only those who buy PhD's from diploma mills put those letters after their name on the books that they write?

They paid for them, just getting their moneys worth, I'd say. SS

There are only two types of religious people, the deceivers and the deceived. SS
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The Imperfectionist

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Posted - 12/09/2009 :  18:05:18   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Cuneiformist a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by the_ignored

Now we can finally see what kind of PhD work the man put availablie from "", from PZ Myers site.
That is hasn't been available until now is almost an academic crime in itself. While it isn't unheard of for scholars to make it difficult for others to see a dissertation for a short period (ca. 5 years) after graduation, this is generally so the person has time to revise it for a book (and to prevent ideas from being "scooped" as it were). But Hovind completed his dissertation what-- 20 years ago? If not more? If this doesn't say utter sham then I don't know what does. Er, besides the actual dissertation itself...
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Posted - 12/09/2009 :  18:44:30   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
My Dog! If that's a doctoral thesis, I'm a gilded crocodile. In case anybody's not noticed, I ain't gilded.

I confess that I didn't read the whole thing -- I've a low drivel threshold this evening -- but if the rest of it's in the same vein of what I did read, I'm missing little.

What is interesting to note is that "Dr. Dino" goes through all of the distortions and even outright lies that we hear almost every day from Creationists -- Darwin was the inspiration for Marx, and so forth. He also does a bit of history, carefully spun. And, of course, lots of Bible quotes.

Small wonder Hovind & Patriot U. was determined to to keep this slops bucket in the closet.

"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)

"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres

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H. Humbert
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Posted - 12/09/2009 :  19:12:03   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send H. Humbert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Kent Hovind got his degree from a diploma mill. He could have turned in a cocktail napkin with the word "Theesus" written in crayon and they would have still handed him his diploma. From that point of view, his 100 page religious testimonial was probably considered above and beyond the expected requirements.

"A man is his own easiest dupe, for what he wishes to be true he generally believes to be true." --Demosthenes

"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself - and you are the easiest person to fool." --Richard P. Feynman

"Face facts with dignity." --found inside a fortune cookie
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The Imperfectionist

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Posted - 12/09/2009 :  19:47:12   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Cuneiformist a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I started reading and taking notes to put here to critique, but it's so facile and ridiculous that it's not even worth it. While she does show flashes of adequate writing skills, in generally the prose is appalling even for serious undergraduate work, and of course the arguments are rudimentary creationist material that even many modern creationists have moved away from...

I feel bad for the poor dude who actually made the PDF...
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New Member

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Posted - 12/10/2009 :  00:18:00   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send AnthroGeek a Private Message  Reply with Quote
It made me lulz hard. Well up to about page 37 or so before I just could not take anymore.

I would like to think I am slightly above average writer if I have enough beers in me, at least in my own mind. Nothing to brag about for sure; but this is one of those pieces of drivel that happens to come by from time to time that almost makes me feel as if I have a Hitchens' like grasp of the English language.

What is that anyway? 17 point font and 3 inch margins with 2.5 spacing?

The only references Hovind gives is either to the KJV Bible or Henry Morris' "The Long war Against God"- as far I read ans can stomach so far.

I wonder just how much of Genesis chapters 1 through 11 the idiot fluffs his "dissertation" with?


Kent Hovind is a man. A man that likes the Bible. He really very truly believes it. He clearly believes he is a man of God. In fact, he believes it so much that it proves that he is wrong!!


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