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BigPapaSmurf
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 03/18/2010 : 05:20:56 [Permalink]
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| left/central/libertarian, though I felt the none of the answers did me justice on at least 4 of the questions. I mean where is the "Stomp out all speech with the bootheel of Big Brother" option? |
"...things I have neither seen nor experienced nor heard tell of from anybody else; things, what is more, that do not in fact exist and could not ever exist at all. So my readers must not believe a word I say." -Lucian on his book True History
"...They accept such things on faith alone, without any evidence. So if a fraudulent and cunning person who knows how to take advantage of a situation comes among them, he can make himself rich in a short time." -Lucian critical of early Christians c.166 AD From his book, De Morte Peregrini |
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astropin
SFN Regular
USA
970 Posts |
Posted - 03/18/2010 : 11:52:47 [Permalink]
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| Libertarian again |
I would rather face a cold reality than delude myself with comforting fantasies.
You are free to believe what you want to believe and I am free to ridicule you for it.
Atheism:
The result of an unbiased and rational search for the truth.
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Fripp
SFN Regular
USA
727 Posts |
 Posted - 03/19/2010 : 07:29:15 [Permalink]
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Right up against the upper left side of the Liberal diamond, leaning slightly towards libertarian.
I agree that not all the answers squarely labeled me. Many times, I had to make "six in one, half-dozen the other" choice. For example, what about a national sales/consumption-based tax vs the income tax? (I prefer the former). |
"What the hell is an Aluminum Falcon?"
"Oh, I'm sorry. I thought my Dark Lord of the Sith could protect a small thermal exhaust port that's only 2-meters wide! That thing wasn't even fully paid off yet! You have any idea what this is going to do to my credit?!?!"
"What? Oh, oh, 'just rebuild it'? Oh, real [bleep]ing original. And who's gonna give me a loan, jackhole? You? You got an ATM on that torso LiteBrite?" |
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Dave W.
Info Junkie
USA
26020 Posts |
Posted - 03/20/2010 : 23:37:33 [Permalink]
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I much prefer the Political Compass test. Mostly because the questions tend to not tie more than one issue together. The Nolan Chart has me pegged right in the middle of Liberal, but I had a heck of a time answering most of the questions (and three or four years ago, this same quiz had me solidly in centrist territory).
The Political Compass test says I'm slightly less communistic and slightly more anarchistic than Gandhi. Here's their results for some historical figures:
And here is where it's put me:
Now, if the Political Compass chart is really the same as the Nolan Chart, just rotated 45° counter-clockwise, then both tests are really putting me in about the same spot. But I still prefer the Compass, because it seems to be less pigeon-holing. |
- Dave W. (Private Msg, EMail)
Evidently, I rock!
Why not question something for a change?
Visit Dave's Psoriasis Info, too. |
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Kil
Evil Skeptic
USA
13476 Posts |
Posted - 03/21/2010 : 00:30:28 [Permalink]
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Still a liberal.
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Uncertainty may make you uncomfortable. Certainty makes you ridiculous.
Why not question something for a change?
Genetic Literacy Project |
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Gorgo
SFN Die Hard
USA
5310 Posts |
Posted - 03/21/2010 : 02:15:58 [Permalink]
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There are some slogans that are tricky:
This is the worst:
| The freer the market, the freer the people. |
What is usually meant by that is, we make sure that small countries deregulate, so that large corporations can take advantage of resources and cheap labor (polite phrase for slavery). Not free at all. A real free market would make us all freer. That is, no huge government imposing the will of the wealthy on the poorest among us.
There are other problems with this test as well.
Economic Left/Right: -9.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.90 |
I know the rent is in arrears
The dog has not been fed in years
It's even worse than it appears
But it's alright-
Jerry Garcia
Robert Hunter
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
15831 Posts |
Posted - 03/21/2010 : 02:42:11 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Gorgo
There are some slogans that are tricky:
This is the worst:
| The freer the market, the freer the people. |
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If by "freer" one meant "cheaper," I'd say that slogan would apply within the slave trade. |
“Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
Here's a link to Moonscape News, and one to its Archive. |
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Gorgo
SFN Die Hard
USA
5310 Posts |
Posted - 03/21/2010 : 03:14:19 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by HalfMooner
Originally posted by Gorgo
There are some slogans that are tricky:
This is the worst:
| The freer the market, the freer the people. |
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If by "freer" one meant "cheaper," I'd say that slogan would apply within the slave trade.
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Right! |
I know the rent is in arrears
The dog has not been fed in years
It's even worse than it appears
But it's alright-
Jerry Garcia
Robert Hunter
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Dr. Mabuse
Septic Fiend
Sweden
9687 Posts |
Posted - 03/21/2010 : 13:10:05 [Permalink]
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Here's me:
Slightly more left than Kil, and slightly more authoritarian than him. |
Dr. Mabuse - "When the going gets tough, the tough get Duct-tape..."
Dr. Mabuse whisper.mp3
"Equivocation is not just a job, for a creationist it's a way of life..." Dr. Mabuse
Support American Troops in Iraq:
Send them unarmed civilians for target practice..
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Machi4velli
SFN Regular
USA
854 Posts |
Posted - 03/21/2010 : 15:00:01 [Permalink]
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Roughly as expected... better questions on this test I think. |
"Truth does not change because it is, or is not, believed by a majority of the people."
-Giordano Bruno
"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, but the illusion of knowledge."
-Stephen Hawking
"Seeking what is true is not seeking what is desirable"
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Dave W.
Info Junkie
USA
26020 Posts |
Posted - 03/21/2010 : 18:09:57 [Permalink]
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Okay, here's one chart with everyone who has posted their "compass" results, above, along with a bunch of political figures from the data on that site:
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- Dave W. (Private Msg, EMail)
Evidently, I rock!
Why not question something for a change?
Visit Dave's Psoriasis Info, too. |
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Machi4velli
SFN Regular
USA
854 Posts |
Posted - 03/21/2010 : 22:35:51 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Gorgo
This is the worst:
| The freer the market, the freer the people. |
What is usually meant by that is, we make sure that small countries deregulate, so that large corporations can take advantage of resources and cheap labor (polite phrase for slavery). Not free at all. A real free market would make us all freer. That is, no huge government imposing the will of the wealthy on the poorest among us. |
What if you combine it with this one:
A genuine free market requires restrictions on the ability of predator multinationals to create monopolies.
Something I can't figure out:
Astrology accurately explains many things.
Some people are naturally unlucky.
What's with these? I don't understand where they're going with them or how either one can affect the graph. |
"Truth does not change because it is, or is not, believed by a majority of the people."
-Giordano Bruno
"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, but the illusion of knowledge."
-Stephen Hawking
"Seeking what is true is not seeking what is desirable"
-Albert Camus |
| Edited by - Machi4velli on 03/21/2010 22:36:48 |
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Dave W.
Info Junkie
USA
26020 Posts |
Posted - 03/21/2010 : 23:06:29 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Machi4velli
Something I can't figure out:
Astrology accurately explains many things.
Some people are naturally unlucky.
What's with these? I don't understand where they're going with them or how either one can affect the graph. |
Belief in such ideas is classically liberal. After all, Biblical literalists know that astrology is false prophecy, and the ideas of sin and free will argue against "unluckiness" as being an excuse for life's misfortunes.
While conservative woo is largely Biblical, liberal woo is "new age" garbage. For another example, the most strenuous deniers of the mere possibility of extraterrestrial life aren't skeptics, but fundamentalist Christians (either that, or they think that if ETs exist, they're all going to Hell).
How the creators of the quiz rate those questions, I can't say. Those are just my impressions upon encountering those items. |
- Dave W. (Private Msg, EMail)
Evidently, I rock!
Why not question something for a change?
Visit Dave's Psoriasis Info, too. |
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
15831 Posts |
Posted - 03/21/2010 : 23:23:44 [Permalink]
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I think one factor that's left out is what I might call "intensity." There are people who fall all over that two-dimensional graph, but vary from almost total political apathy to fanatical devotion to their cause. Some peoples' degree of political involvement varies from day to day or from year to year.
I, for instance, am apparently a plain-vanilla Centrist, but I feel rather passionately about my views. (Which sometime leaves me feeling like I'm playing a Central European nation in the board-game of Diplomacy, getting hit from all sides.) |
“Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
Here's a link to Moonscape News, and one to its Archive. |
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dglas
Skeptic Friend
Canada
397 Posts |
Posted - 03/21/2010 : 23:30:51 [Permalink]
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Economic Left/Right: -5.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.28
This puts me somewhere around where Dave and Kil are (just a little closer to the center point), but I don't trust this. I recognize the corporate state as one of the top three worst kinds of totalitarianism (mostly because it is self-perpetuating - once in it the odds are we won't get out), but the quiz seems to equate corporate deregulation with personal freedom - and I'm just not buying that. |
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The Presupposition of Intrinsic Evil
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