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ThorGoLucky
Snuggle Wolf
USA
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Posted - 04/17/2010 : 10:04:51 [Permalink]
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It'll be interesting to see how much this affects the global temperature. It could give a little down spike that the deniers will jump all over.
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
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Posted - 04/17/2010 : 10:13:27 [Permalink]
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| I think any even temporary reversal of AGW would be a wonderful thing, despite the insane glee of the deniers. They'll always find "reasons" to howl. It's not as though that lot pays attention to reality, anyway. |
“Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
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 Posted - 04/18/2010 : 09:55:45 [Permalink]
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Euruptions from Iceland's Eyjafjallajökull volcano continue apace. It's entirely possible (maybe even likely), based upon the volcano's last eruption, that dust clouds may be ejected for years, keeping most of Europe grounded as though in a pre-Wright Brothers era.
What would be the economic consequences of a prolonged halt to air travel in Europe? |
“Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
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tomk80
SFN Regular
Netherlands
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Posted - 04/18/2010 : 10:14:52 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by HalfMooner
Euruptions from Iceland's Eyjafjallajökull volcano continue apace. It's entirely possible (maybe even likely), based upon the volcano's last eruption, that dust clouds may be ejected for years, keeping most of Europe grounded as though in a pre-Wright Brothers era.
What would be the economic consequences of a prolonged halt to air travel in Europe?
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It depends. Currently KLM has performed test flights and those apparently went okay. Both airplane companies as well as pilots are currently pressuring the authorities to allow limited air flight. We'll have to see how things developed. |
Tom
`Contrariwise,' continued Tweedledee, `if it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; but as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic.'
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
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Posted - 04/18/2010 : 10:27:45 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by tomk80
Originally posted by HalfMooner
Euruptions from Iceland's Eyjafjallajökull volcano continue apace. It's entirely possible (maybe even likely), based upon the volcano's last eruption, that dust clouds may be ejected for years, keeping most of Europe grounded as though in a pre-Wright Brothers era.
What would be the economic consequences of a prolonged halt to air travel in Europe?
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It depends. Currently KLM has performed test flights and those apparently went okay. Both airplane companies as well as pilots are currently pressuring the authorities to allow limited air flight. We'll have to see how things developed.
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Test results seem to depend upon the density of the dust cloud in the area. The Finns had pretty bad results with test flights through the cloud using F-18's, while some airliner test flights have been unscathed. |
“Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
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tomk80
SFN Regular
Netherlands
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Posted - 04/18/2010 : 11:06:24 [Permalink]
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I'm just looking at the news. It seems that authorities want to try and give more accurate estimates of the ash cloud so that flight can be resumed. |
Tom
`Contrariwise,' continued Tweedledee, `if it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; but as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic.'
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
15831 Posts |
Posted - 04/18/2010 : 11:50:47 [Permalink]
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This is going to be tricky, finding safe routes to avoid the worst of the volcanic dust. It's a problem on a scale that nobody's ever deal with. Maybe some air traffic controllers will need to be stationed on the ISS, to keep an eye on the clouds?
More seriously, I wonder if some of the world's remaining piston-powered transports could be brought in to provide transport in and out of Europe. I think they might be relatively immune to dust densities that would cause jet and turboprop planes to fall from the sky. But I doubt there are enough of these left to amount to anything but a drop in the bucket.
If the aircraft groundings continue, a few transatlantic passenger ships could also come in very handy. There are plenty of these that could be taken out of pleasure cruise service and used to move people across The Pond. |
“Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
15831 Posts |
Posted - 04/19/2010 : 06:08:03 [Permalink]
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| Today, there are many flights all over Northern Europe (click link in previous post), though I see nothing in the news about it yet. |
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Randy
SFN Regular
USA
1990 Posts |
Posted - 04/19/2010 : 15:13:17 [Permalink]
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| Check this out! |
"We are all connected; to each other biologically, to the earth chemically, to the rest of the universe atomically."
"So you're made of detritus [from exploded stars]. Get over it. Or better yet, celebrate it. After all, what nobler thought can one cherish than that the universe lives within us all?"
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Hawks
SFN Regular
Canada
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Posted - 04/19/2010 : 16:21:17 [Permalink]
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| WOW! |
METHINKS IT IS LIKE A WEASEL
It's a small, off-duty czechoslovakian traffic warden! |
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
15831 Posts |
Posted - 04/19/2010 : 17:06:31 [Permalink]
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| Well, that's really cool! But so is an H-bomb, so long as you're neither too near, nor downwind. Doesn't appear this volcano wants to give Europe a break. |
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Randy
SFN Regular
USA
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Posted - 04/19/2010 : 17:09:59 [Permalink]
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| Imagine if old Yellowstone wakes up for a great big belch. That could really be one huge mess in many many ways for this entire country. |
"We are all connected; to each other biologically, to the earth chemically, to the rest of the universe atomically."
"So you're made of detritus [from exploded stars]. Get over it. Or better yet, celebrate it. After all, what nobler thought can one cherish than that the universe lives within us all?"
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Machi4velli
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Posted - 04/19/2010 : 17:13:17 [Permalink]
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so cool |
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Randy
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USA
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Posted - 04/19/2010 : 18:00:56 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Machi4velli
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Yes! That image so captures a moment of the power and majesty of nature just doing its thing. |
"We are all connected; to each other biologically, to the earth chemically, to the rest of the universe atomically."
"So you're made of detritus [from exploded stars]. Get over it. Or better yet, celebrate it. After all, what nobler thought can one cherish than that the universe lives within us all?"
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Iceland's volcanic ash shuts down European flights
