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diohuni
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Kil
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Posted - 02/15/2011 : 15:10:47 [Permalink]
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| Thanks and welcome to SFN diohuni. Most of us are aware of the bogus dowsing bomb finding device. Very bad thing!!! |
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sailingsoul
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 Posted - 02/15/2011 : 16:08:07 [Permalink]
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| What's with the comment at 3:35 minutes in " A team of royal engineers demonstrated them at arms shows,,," Just who are these "royal engineers" working for? What's the difference between non-royal British engineers? Is the Queen involved in the shit?? This brings to mind the comment "a fool and his money are soon parted". Pathetic! SS |
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Dr. Mabuse
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Posted - 02/15/2011 : 18:41:00 [Permalink]
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| I thought "royal engineers" would refer to Engineer Corps, ie. military engineers. So yes, they would be working for the queen. |
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diohuni
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Posted - 02/18/2011 : 05:35:31 [Permalink]
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latest great news...the net is tightening on the fraudsters day by day. Hooray!!
Latest news on the fake detectors scandal here:
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2011/02/17/uk-iraq-britain-explosives-idUKTRE71G3H120110217
This was the man who said:
“Whether it’s magic or scientific, what I care about is it detects bombs,” said Maj. Gen. Jehad al-Jabiri, head of the Ministry of the Interior’s General Directorate for Combating Explosives.
“I don’t care about Sandia or the Department of Justice or any of them,” General Jabiri said. “I know more about this issue than the Americans do. In fact, I know more about bombs than anyone in the world.”
You can check out the blogs at:
http://ade651gt200scamfraud.blogspot.com
http://explosivedetectorfrauds.blogspot.com/
http://sniffexquestions.blogspot.com
or our new Google Group here:
http://groups.google.com/group/the-fake-explosives-detector-campaign
The more coverage this story get the better.
The following still are at large:
James McCormick and the ADE 651, Gary Bolton and the GT200. David Vollmar and the HEDD1, General Pierre Hadji Georgiou at ProSec in Lebanon, Ilie Stelian at Mira Telecom, John Wyatt at SDS, Malcolm Roe, Sam Tree, Yuri Markov, Horizon Group India, Simon Sherrard at Comstrac, and quite a few others. They should not be sleeping too well now.
ProSec were the conduit for the corrupt $85 million ADE 651 sale to Iraq. We have reason to believe they may now be changing agencies to the equally idiotic HEDD1 from Unival in Germany. |
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alanturing
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filthy
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 Posted - 02/25/2011 : 07:54:25 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by alanturing
It is incredible! Who will ever think there is a page dedicate to [url=http://www.ade651.co.uk/]ADE 651[/url]!
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Hell, I will. If you track this stuff, you'll find new nonsense popping up every day. Hereza link for ya: Link
Welcome to SFN, diohuni and alanturing!
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Dr. Mabuse
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Posted - 02/25/2011 : 08:18:59 [Permalink]
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It has to be a cynical exercise in pro-active Darwin-award.
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diohuni
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Kil
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Posted - 03/29/2011 : 09:41:54 [Permalink]
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| Already signed. But I too urge others to sign it. |
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alanturing
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Posted - 05/22/2011 : 12:34:43 [Permalink]
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On the ATSC LTD http://www.atscltd.com website are a lot of scientific explanation about the principles of the detection.
Does anybody understand them? Is this possible? |
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Kil
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Posted - 05/22/2011 : 14:20:55 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by alanturing
On the ATSC LTD http://www.atscltd.com website are a lot of scientific explanation about the principles of the detection.
Does anybody understand them? Is this possible?
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No. It's not possible. It's nothing more than a dowsing device like using a forked stick to find water. The described electronics aren't even attached to anything. Throw in words like "electro-magnetism" and mention "ions" and you can sell anything.
Also, I could not find what you call "a lot of scientific explanation" on the site. Just the more general baloney about "electro-magnetism" and stuff like that.
All the "science" I could find on their site about the ADA651:
How does the ADE work?
The ADE works on a principal we have termed as Electro-Magnetic Attraction. The principle for long range detection is based on the substance excitation that needs to be detected, with an electromagnetic field that propagates on a long distance and is not disturbed by the "electromagnetic noise" from the environment generated by the RF transmitters and other electronic equipments that use electric current or electromagnetic waves.
Simultaneous Detection of Multiple Types of Explosives or Drugs
As mentioned, the ADE651® incorporates electromagnetic attraction [EMA] technology to target specific substances. It can accommodate multiple substance detection through the use of our proprietary sensor-cards to detect a broad range of explosive or drug [narcotic] materials. It can narrow-down this to identify a specific substance by removing the individual detection cards from the unit after first detection, until the attraction is lost.
Ignores All Known Concealment Methods
By programming the detection cards to specifically target a particular substance material, (through the proprietary process of electro-static matching of the charge and structure of the substance), the ADE651® will "by-pass" all currently known attempts to conceal the target. It has been shown in tests to infiltrate Lead, other metals, concrete, and other matter (including hiding inside the body) used in the attempt to block the attracing signal.
No Consumables nor Maintenance Contracts Required
Unlike most Trace Detectors that require the supply of sample traps, the ADE651® does not utilize any consumables (exceptions include: cotton-gloves and cleanser) thereby reducing the operational costs of the equipment. The equipment is Operator maintained and requires no ongoing maintenance service contracts. ADE651® comes with a hardware warranty and since the equipment is powered electro statically, there are no batteries or conventional power supplies to charge or maintain. |
Which pretty much tells us nothing except that there is no science to their science.
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sailingsoul
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Posted - 05/22/2011 : 18:54:09 [Permalink]
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| If their (or anyone's else's) rhetoric doesn't make sense, that right there should tell you your being scammed. Just like with, New age cures, homeopathic medications, religion con artists, psysic's, what have you. Con's are always about getting the money out of the mark and they work every angle. SS |
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Dr. Mabuse
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Posted - 05/23/2011 : 10:40:31 [Permalink]
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| This smells of link ad spamming to me. |
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Kil
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Posted - 05/23/2011 : 10:59:08 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dr. Mabuse
This smells of link ad spamming to me.
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Yeah. I agree. But bringing that nonsense here to a skeptic site is kinda special, don't you think? |
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