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tw101356
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Posted - 07/01/2010 :  13:58:22  Show Profile Send tw101356 a Private Message  Reply with Quote

This is beautiful.

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tomchivers/100044581/homeopathy-dropped-by-the-nhs-and-about-time/

The money quote at the end is absolutely perfect:

"And really, homeopaths shouldn’t be too disappointed. In fact, they should be grateful. After all, by their own logic, the less funding they get, the more effective it will be."


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The Rat
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Posted - 07/01/2010 :  15:03:31   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit The Rat's Homepage Send The Rat a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Excellent news!

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sailingsoul
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Posted - 07/01/2010 :  15:15:35   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send sailingsoul a Private Message  Reply with Quote
This is really good news. Let's see how this pill goes down.


In the article they wrote...
B. that the more dilute a remedy is, the more potent it is – without limit. So – with not a trace of irony – homeopaths offer “remedies” diluted so far that you could reasonably expect to find one molecule in a sphere of water several times larger than the Sun. I am not exaggerating, incidentally.


Hummm. So Maybe I should take any Homeopathic medicine from x20 or x30 in drug stores and add "more processing". After making it more potent, to x100 (let's say), sell it on the internet as more potent than dosages available in your drug store. $$$$ SS

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Dave W.
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Posted - 07/01/2010 :  19:39:15   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Actually, SS, you can sell nothing as being an infinitely potentized homeopathic remedy. Any homeopathic remedy, in fact.

But if you want to do anything like you suggest, you'll have to get your terminology correct. The X goes after the number. 20X, not x20. Of course, if consumers can't spot fake medicine, who's to say they'll be able to spot a fake homeopath?

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Bob Lloyd
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Posted - 07/04/2010 :  02:57:44   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Bob Lloyd's Homepage Send Bob Lloyd a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Now they've taken a step over homeopathy, they should be invited to do the same for chiropractic, acupuncture, and even Reiki, all of which occasionally get suggested in UK surgeries. And there's also a tendency for "combined practices" in which the offices in a health centre are rented out to "alternatives" which share the cost and inherit the stamp of approval from the medical centre itself. By entering into commercial agreements with these fake treatment practitioners, they undermine their ability to criticise them. We also need to urge the medical profession to dissuade their members from acquiring fake qualifications like chiropractic.

This first step, a voluntary avoidance of homeopathy, is not the root-and-branch exposure of alt-med that we need, and I hope it encourages others to up the ante, questioning qualifications, demanding evidence, exposing false claims, etc. I doubt it will somehow, but as skeptics we should take the opportunity to talk to the gullible about why doctors should be taking this decision. Alas, for the NHS it's a funding decision rather than one based on scientific principles.
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Kil
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Posted - 07/04/2010 :  11:29:29   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Kil's Homepage  Send Kil an AOL message  Send Kil a Yahoo! Message Send Kil a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I wish this sort of thing would take root here in the US. Insurance companies like some of the alternatives like acupuncture and chiropractic because they don't have to to pay out as much money on claims. I have had the supporters of alt's argue that because insurance companies recognize and pay for some alternative treatments, that must mean that they work.

To my knowledge, none of the health insurer's here pay for homeopathy.

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