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The Rat
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Posted - 08/11/2010 :  08:03:15  Show Profile  Visit The Rat's Homepage Send The Rat a Private Message  Reply with Quote

The anti-science crowd will be all over this like a dirty shirt. But what they will miss (again) is the fact that when possible fraud is uncovered in science, scientists will not close ranks to protect one of 'their own', they will turn on the traitor faster than you can say 'lying bastard!' Read the comments from scientists in this article.


Bailey's second law; There is no relationship between the three virtues of intelligence, education, and wisdom.

You fiend! Never have I encountered such corrupt and foul-minded perversity! Have you ever considered a career in the Church? - The Bishop of Bath and Wells, Blackadder II

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BigPapaSmurf
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Posted - 08/11/2010 :  09:42:37   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send BigPapaSmurf a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Also don't forget scientists are usually the ones to catch the dirty lying liars.

"...things I have neither seen nor experienced nor heard tell of from anybody else; things, what is more, that do not in fact exist and could not ever exist at all. So my readers must not believe a word I say." -Lucian on his book True History

"...They accept such things on faith alone, without any evidence. So if a fraudulent and cunning person who knows how to take advantage of a situation comes among them, he can make himself rich in a short time." -Lucian critical of early Christians c.166 AD From his book, De Morte Peregrini
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Dave W.
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Posted - 08/12/2010 :  13:04:34   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Greg Laden doesn't know, and he worked with the guy.

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Dude
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Posted - 08/12/2010 :  16:40:03   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Dude a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Innocent until accused in the press. A single retracted paper does not constitute evidence of malpractice. I'd rather wait for the official investigation to conclude and be made public. There almost has to be a good reason for them keeping the lid on at the moment.


Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson

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sailingsoul
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Posted - 08/12/2010 :  19:12:40   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send sailingsoul a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Dude

Innocent until accused in the press. A single retracted paper does not constitute evidence of malpractice. I'd rather wait for the official investigation to conclude and be made public. There almost has to be a good reason for them keeping the lid on at the moment.

That is a prudent position, not unwarranted. SS

There are only two types of religious people, the deceivers and the deceived. SS
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the_ignored
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Posted - 08/12/2010 :  20:52:33   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send the_ignored a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Cant' wait until good ol' Vox gets his hands on that. Just keep watching as his blog updates, and you'll see it, I'm sure. In the meantime, this is the kind of people he aims for:

Robert 8/12/10 10:49 AM
Look at all the scientific failures in the last 75 years. Start with East Anglia. I personally have no respect for scientists at all. Absolutely none. I would be ashamed if one of my kids was a scientist in academia.


There is one very bad taste joke in there against women. Guess what? No one calls it out.

Edit:
Yep, Vox weighs in on this, just as I expected.




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>
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What brought that on? this. Original posting here.

Another example of this guy's lunacy here.
Edited by - the_ignored on 08/14/2010 00:11:55
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Dave W.
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Posted - 08/20/2010 :  18:17:07   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Harvard Dean Confirms Misconduct in Hauser Investigation:
In an e-mail sent earlier today to Harvard University faculty members, Michael Smith, dean of the Faculty of Arts and Sciences (FAS), confirms that cognitive scientist Marc Hauser "was found solely responsible, after a thorough investigation by a faculty member investigating committee, for eight instances of scientific misconduct under FAS standards."

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Dave W.
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Posted - 10/26/2010 :  17:41:51   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Update on the Hauser case:
The Times reports that some colleagues are now coming to Hauserís defense, a journal editor who accused him of fraud is backing off, and a critical experiment, whose results seemed fraudulent, may show nothing more than carelessness in setting up the protocol.

The article contains a good deal of special pleading about the experiments by Hauser, and I suppose that this may all be some sort of ghastly misunderstanding. Itís a mess, and the investigation by the governmentís Office of Research Integrity could take years.

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